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coloradoBengal 
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/19/12 at 6:13 am to thetigerman)
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Is this guys kind of thought process prevalent?
There's plenty of documentary evidence to support this to be true. Not necessarily because they are black, because white girls do it to, but definitely because they are in the lower socio economic class... which in Southern urban centers is overwhelmingly black.
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frick am I glad I don't live in the south anymore!
Because he's right...or because you don't agree with him?
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Roaad
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/19/12 at 7:40 am to FightinTiger)
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Except that I'm a Christian.
And incredible insecure. Do you think slaveowners should have been required by law to evangelize to freed slaves?
You are all about government fixing all of our "social issues", right?
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BBONDS25
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/19/12 at 7:53 am to WikiTiger)
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I'm not going to deny the reality of the situation
 You do in every other situation regarding government. I guess its cool and edgy to be a statist if it helps the anti-religion crowd.
You are a rock!
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ragacamps
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/19/12 at 8:33 am to RollTide4Ever)
How about you get your colleague to run a correlation with abortions per region and I think that coupled with race will tell the story. It is easier and less expensive for teens to get abortions (sometimes without consent) in more liberal states. Am I saying anything unknown here?? Didnt think so. That is a major player in the skewing of these numbers.
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Winkface 
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/19/12 at 8:37 am to WikiTiger)
Can someone explain to me why there is so much discussion on a "study" conducted by a journalist using garbage stats? If he would try to submit that to any decent academic journal using only correlations, he'd be laughed at. You can't reach any conclusions using correlations. All they can do is raise more questions and point you in the direction of further analysis. There is so much more statistical analysis that needs to be done with this data. His "study" is garbage.
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FightinTiger 
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/19/12 at 9:36 am to Roaad)
No, I was just posting a random thought.
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WikiTiger
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/19/12 at 9:37 am to Winkface)
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Can someone explain to me why there is so much discussion on a "study" conducted by a journalist using garbage stats? If he would try to submit that to any decent academic journal using only correlations, he'd be laughed at. You can't reach any conclusions using correlations. All they can do is raise more questions and point you in the direction of further analysis. There is so much more statistical analysis that needs to be done with this data. His "study" is garbage.
Yea, that's what everyone keeps saying. But so far only USMC has attempted to post any contradicting numbers.
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Winkface
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/19/12 at 12:31 pm to WikiTiger)
Why does it have to be contradicting numbers? It could be true for all I know. I just want a better analysis.
ETA: A much better study...
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Associations Between Sexuality Education in Schools and Adolescent Birthrates
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Results: In a longitudinal, unadjusted model, our findings provide evidence that increased sexuality education within school curricula is associated with lower adolescent birthrates (average sexuality education topics=-0.61; P=.001). However, the effect of sexuality education disappeared when taking into consideration the demographic characteristics, religiosity, and abortion policies of the state (average sexuality education topics =-0.12; P=.26). States with higher religiosity rankings and greater political conservatism had higher adolescent birthrates.
Conclusions: The effects of sexuality education were constrained by state characteristics and do not independently explain the considerable variations in adolescent birthrates found across states. Our findings underscore the strong influence of state characteristics on adolescent birthrates above and beyond sexuality education, which must be considered when evaluating the efficacy of sexuality education programs.
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Extending past reports by using a more comprehensive model of sexuality education, our main findings revealed that sexuality education was not associated with teen birthrates once religiosity measures and abortion policy were included in the analysis. Thus, the effects of sexuality education were constrained by state characteristics and do not independently explain the considerable variations in adolescent birthrates found across these states
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Separating the impact of state characteristics, such as social conservatism, religiosity, and abortion policy, from the impact of sexuality education on adolescent births is complex. Possibly states with more conservative political values and higher religiosity less fully implement the sexuality education programs, which in turn leads to higher adolescent birthrates. Another potential explanation is that the quality of sexuality education is similar across states but the educational messages are disregarded by adolescents who reside in more conservative and/or more religious states. Last, our findings may occur because adolescent girls who reside in states with more conservative political values and higher religiosity and stricter abortion policies are less likely to have an abortion compared with adolescent girls who reside in other states.
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USMCTiger03
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/19/12 at 1:02 pm to Winkface)
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Why does it have to be contradicting numbers? It could be true for all I know. I just want a better analysis. ETA: A much better study... quote:Associations Between Sexuality Education in Schools and Adolescent Birthrates
That information is already out there. I think that the original authors and Wiki are trying to show some kind of failure or hypocrisy of those with religious beliefs rather than the failure of abstinence-only sex education.
Of course, judging the entire populace of a state based on beliefs held by some and acts done by some, who may or may not even be linked to the first group, is asinine on its face.
But hey, whatever makes them feel better.
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