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FightinTiger 
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/18/12 at 3:49 pm to USMCTiger03)
Pregnancy rates would be almost impossible to determine accurately.
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WikiTiger 
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/18/12 at 3:50 pm to USMCTiger03)
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Strange that you didn't use pregnancy rates.
Rather, you used birth rates.
Why is that?
Not my data or study.
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Doctor Radical
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/18/12 at 3:50 pm to USMCTiger03)
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Strange that you didn't use pregnancy rates.
Is it possible to get reasonably accurate pregnancy rates?
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WikiTiger
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/18/12 at 3:50 pm to L.A.)
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What's the point you're making here.
In a simple sentence, what is your hypothesis?
In the original thread, I quoted this from the article:
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The 2009 study posited that attitudes toward contraception play a significant role, noting that "religious communities in the U.S. are more successful in discouraging the use of contraception among their teenagers than they are in discouraging sexual intercourse itself."
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L.A. 
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/18/12 at 3:52 pm to WikiTiger)
So why did you need to start a NEW thread to make a point you made in the ORIGINAL thread?
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WikiTiger
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/18/12 at 3:53 pm to L.A.)
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So why did you need to start a NEW thread to make a point you made in the ORIGINAL thread?
Just go ahead and delete this thread since it's clear that you don't want this debated or discussed. You would prefer that most people not see the new information and that they just go on thinking I'm a moron.
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USMCTiger03
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/18/12 at 3:56 pm to WikiTiger)
This study found an association:
Table 3.4 Rates of pregnancy, birth and abortion among women aged 15–19, by state of residence, according to race and
ethnicity, 2005
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This post was edited on 4/18 at 3:57 pm
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Elephino
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/18/12 at 3:56 pm to WikiTiger)
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there is little association between a state's teen birthrate and the racial breakdown of its population. When my colleague Charlotta Mellander ran the correlations for race, she found was no statistically significant association between teen birthrates and the Hispanic share of a state population.
The above quote does not appear to be the case if the following is true. LINK
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Texas is home to approximately 9 million Latinos comprising 37% of the population.
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Texas, which has the 4th highest teen pregnancy rate in the nation (in women aged 15-19, the pregnancy rate in Texas is 88 per 1000 vs. 70 per 1000 in the U.S.).9 In 2005, more than 73,000 girls aged 15-19 years got pregnant in Texas, and 58% (42,000) were Latina teens.9 More than half of all Latina girls experience a pregnancy before they turn twenty years of age.10 It is projected that by 2015 the Texas teen pregnancy rate will increase by 13%, resulting in a projected teen pregnancy rate of 127 per 1000 Texas women aged 15-19 years.11 This increase is primarily due to the changing demographics and projected growth in the number of Latino adolescents in Texas.
37% of the population in Texas being responsible for 58% of the teen pregnancy does not make for "an association between a state's teen birthrate and the racial breakdown of its population"? I posted the same information in your thread yesterday (along with a more comprehensive study).
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USMCTiger03
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/18/12 at 3:58 pm to FightinTiger)
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Pregnancy rates would be almost impossible to determine accurately.
Apparently not.
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Green Chili Tiger
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/18/12 at 3:58 pm to USMCTiger03)
How do Kentucky and Montana have negative numbers in that chart?
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WikiTiger
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/18/12 at 3:59 pm to USMCTiger03)
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This study found an association:
what's the correlation?
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L.A.
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/18/12 at 4:00 pm to WikiTiger)
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Just go ahead and delete this thread since it's clear that you don't want this debated or discussed. You would prefer that most people not see the new information and that they just go on thinking I'm a moron.
Stop acting like a little girl. There's nothing in this thread that differs from your original thread. What makes you so special that you get to break any rule you feel like breaking? What makes you think you don't have to follow board rules like everyone else?
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FightinTiger
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/18/12 at 4:00 pm to WikiTiger)
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Just go ahead and delete this thread since it's clear that you don't want this debated or discussed. You would prefer that most people not see the new information and that they just go on thinking I'm a moron.
I like L.A. a lot, but I kinda get that vibe from this thread.
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Gmorgan4982
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/18/12 at 4:00 pm to WikiTiger)
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Just go ahead and delete this thread since it's clear that you don't want this debated or discussed. You would prefer that most people not see the new information and that they just go on thinking I'm a moron.
No kidding. L.A. is becoming really pushy on the religion issue lately. I guess it's conform to some pro-religion ideal of his or get harassed by him.
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WikiTiger
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/18/12 at 4:02 pm to Gmorgan4982)
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I guess it's conform to some pro-religion ideal of his or get harassed by him.
pretty much
and if you call him on it, he calls you a little girl
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USMCTiger03
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/18/12 at 4:02 pm to WikiTiger)
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quote:Strange that you didn't use pregnancy rates. Rather, you used birth rates. Why is that?
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Not my data or study.
Is it because using pregnancy rates would have destroyed your argument?
Not saying that no possible correlation is shown between some southern ("bible belt") states and higher pregnancy rates, but there are enough other states in the mix to severely limit any correlation:
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U.S. total 70
D.C. 165
New Mexico 93
Nevada 90
Arizona 89
Texas 88
Mississippi 85
Delaware 83
Arkansas 80
Georgia 80
S. Carolina 79
Tennessee 79
Florida 77
New York 77
N. Carolina 76
Oklahoma 76
California 75
Alabama 73
Hawaii 71
Louisiana 70
Colorado 69
New Jersey 68
Illinois 67
Kentucky 66
Maryland 65
Wyoming 65
Missouri 63
Indiana 62
Ohio 62
Island 62
West Virginia 62
Alaska 61
Virginia 61
Kansas 60
Michigan 60
Washington 59
Connecticut 57
Oregon 57
Montana 56
Idaho 55
Pennsylvania 53
Iowa 51
S. Dakota 51
Nebraska 50
Massachusetts 49
Utah 47
Wisconsin 47
N. Dakota 45
Maine 43
Minnesota 43
Vermont 40
Hampshire 33
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L.A.
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/18/12 at 4:03 pm to Gmorgan4982)
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No kidding. L.A. is becoming really pushy on the religion issue lately. I guess it's conform to some pro-religion ideal of his or get harassed by him.
My point is that he could have added this to the old thread, instead of starting a new one.
Check the FAQ's about starting new threads if you have any questions about that.
AT NO POINT WHATSOEVER DID I DISCOURAGE DEBATE ON THIS TOPIC.
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Gmorgan4982
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/18/12 at 4:03 pm to WikiTiger)
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and if you call him on it, he calls you a little girl
Yeah, I saw that. 
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WikiTiger
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/18/12 at 4:03 pm to USMCTiger03)
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Is it because using pregnancy rates would have destroyed your argument?
Not saying that no possible correlation is shown between some southern ("bible belt") states and higher pregnancy rates, but there are enough other states in the mix to severely limit any correlation:
I'm not saying you're wrong, and I even admitted that the abortion argument made in the other thread was a good argument. All I'm asking is for you to run some numbers. Let's see a correlation.
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USMCTiger03
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| re: More on the Teen Birthrate Bible Belt Connection (Posted on 4/18/12 at 4:04 pm to Green Chili Tiger)
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How do Kentucky and Montana have negative numbers in that chart?
"Pregnancy rates in parentheses include abortions obtained by Hispanic women; in these states, =10% of births to white women 15–19 were to Hispanics."
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