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Posted on 4/18/12 at 10:38 am to 13AMS
I'm sorry, but I've NEVER been an Indiana fan, particularly since Bob Knight won that Final Four contest against the Tigers in New Orleans so many years ago.
Now, you throw in Tom Crean, who reminds me of Judd Nelson, and that just makes it worse.
IU
Now, you throw in Tom Crean, who reminds me of Judd Nelson, and that just makes it worse.
IU
Posted on 4/18/12 at 10:38 am to 13AMS
More often than not, this plan backfires.
Posted on 4/18/12 at 10:43 am to eshorefan
quote:what?
Now, you throw in Tom Crean, who reminds me of Judd Nelson
Posted on 4/18/12 at 11:59 am to Bubba Hotep
quote:No, it doesn't. It's not like they ever have to accept the kid's commitment if he ends up being a loser. And if he does end up being the #1 recruit in the country or something, well, IU was on him first.
More often than not, this plan backfires.
Posted on 4/18/12 at 12:05 pm to 13AMS
How old is the average 8th grader? 13 or 14..this guy is showing a beard! I've known alot of 8th graders that could really play BUT only played 21 years in high school because they were too old!
Posted on 4/18/12 at 12:10 pm to Gravitiger
I meant backfires, in that the kid usually doesn't pan out. High percentage of early bloomers don't become big time recruits. Although with his brother in the NBA, he could be an exception.
Posted on 4/18/12 at 12:24 pm to Gus Tinsley
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BUT only played 21 years in high school
Meant 2 years in high school....
Posted on 4/18/12 at 12:24 pm to 13AMS
Soccer clubs are signing 8 yr olds.
Posted on 4/18/12 at 12:29 pm to The Mick
But that is to enter into their youth programs. A little bit different, but still creepy.
Posted on 4/18/12 at 12:33 pm to Bubba Hotep
quote:Unless that actually negatively impacts the school that offers him so early, it doesn't "backfire" on them. There's a difference between the kid just not panning out, and the kid not panning out backfiring on the school.
I meant backfires, in that the kid usually doesn't pan out. High percentage of early bloomers don't become big time recruits.
I also don't think the flame-out ratio is such a high percentage. If you looked at the top 100 8th graders in 2008 and the top 100 seniors now, probably half the list is the same. Sure kids have moved up and down, but many of them are the same. The young kids that are top 10 guys now but not as much room to develop still often end up top 100 guys down the road.
Perfect example is a kid I saw a lot, Andre Allen out of Memphis. He was a 5'9", 200 lb. PG as a 13 year old, and he was the best player in the nation at his age group. Then he ended up still a 5'9", 200 lb. senior (with a weed habit), but was still a top 100 type recruit with offers from Memphis, Arkansas, Tennessee, Ole Miss, etc. Probably could have been an even better running back if he had enjoyed football more, but I digress.
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Posted on 4/18/12 at 12:42 pm to Gravitiger
I worded it wrong and I thought I clarified it.
If the ultimate goal is to sign that player, which by offering them a scholarship it appears is the case, then if that player does not pan out, then the plan "backfired." It will likely not have a lastining negative impact on the program, so it won't "backfire" in that sense.
Regardless, a program with the stature of Indiana should not be doing this. This is something a non-elite school should do to draw attention. Billy Gillespie did this frequently at Kentucky, with virtually zero success. I don't think any of his middle school recruits ever went on to play major college basketball.
If the ultimate goal is to sign that player, which by offering them a scholarship it appears is the case, then if that player does not pan out, then the plan "backfired." It will likely not have a lastining negative impact on the program, so it won't "backfire" in that sense.
Regardless, a program with the stature of Indiana should not be doing this. This is something a non-elite school should do to draw attention. Billy Gillespie did this frequently at Kentucky, with virtually zero success. I don't think any of his middle school recruits ever went on to play major college basketball.
Posted on 4/18/12 at 1:37 pm to Bubba Hotep
ihave watched the kid...hell of a player !!! he will be something to watch .... probably a one and done type of kid !!
Posted on 4/18/12 at 1:40 pm to 13AMS
It's a risk vs. reward type of thing, obviously, but even Eric Gordon himself has been saying for years that his youngest brother would be the best of the three. I normally don't like offers this early and still don't with this one as I think IU would have a good shot even if they waited but I think this is as safe a bet as you'll find
Posted on 4/18/12 at 2:06 pm to 13AMS
IU did this back in the 80s with some player (Damon? somebody) who turned out to be very average.
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