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re: Thoughts on Andre Drummond
Posted on 4/15/12 at 3:52 pm to saintsfan22
Posted on 4/15/12 at 3:52 pm to saintsfan22
How can you assume he will suddenly start caring?
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Posted on 4/15/12 at 3:54 pm to Jester
You can't. It's a risk and we'll see who's willing to take it. But it won't stay that low, even the worst FT shooters in league history get into the 40s.
This post was edited on 4/15/12 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 4/15/12 at 4:00 pm to saintsfan22
Posted on 4/15/12 at 4:01 pm to saintsfan22
This is my issue with us drafting Drummond. Bynum had issues, but had Phil Jackson & Kobe to call him out and set him straight. On the other hand, we drafted JR Smith and had no one here to guide him and ended up having to trade him.
We are rebuilding, I don't think we have that strong presence to motivate Drummond.
Just my 2 cents.
We are rebuilding, I don't think we have that strong presence to motivate Drummond.
Just my 2 cents.
Posted on 4/15/12 at 4:04 pm to Suntiger
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On the other hand, we drafted JR Smith and had no one here to guide him and ended up having to trade him.
Drummond's issues aren't JR's issues and it's not like we have the same people running the show that we had then.
Posted on 4/15/12 at 4:11 pm to Tiger in NY
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Here is what UConn fans think of his NBA potential:
LINK
whenever i go to other forums and see how crappy their interface is, it makes me happy for this site.
Posted on 4/15/12 at 4:12 pm to saintsfan22
He and Smith have similar issues. Both have overly involved families that like to meddle.
Posted on 4/15/12 at 4:14 pm to Jester
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He and Smith have similar issues. Both have overly involved families that like to meddle.
Drummond? You sure you're not thinking of Oriakhi whose dad was twittering shite about the UConn coaches all year?
Posted on 4/15/12 at 4:15 pm to Jester
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He and Smith have similar issues.
No Drummond's issue is effort, JR's is on and off-court maturity and constantly doing dumb shite.
This post was edited on 4/15/12 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 4/15/12 at 4:19 pm to saintsfan22
It's different issues, but Smith's first season here was Scott's first season (I'm pretty sure) and we were rebuilding and didn't have that 'star' strong presence to guide/motivate him. I'm just saying its similar that we are rebuilding and don't seem to have that strong presence to guide/motivate Drummond.
Posted on 4/15/12 at 5:06 pm to Tiger in NY
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Here is what UConn fans think of his NBA potential: LINK
Ouch. I think that should say it all...
Posted on 4/15/12 at 7:08 pm to Tiger in NY
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It is just that he has no killer instinct once the games start. He is a hard worker.
he'd have a lot more rebounds. rebounding is mostly just exerting effort
Posted on 4/15/12 at 7:12 pm to Tiger in NY
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Here is what UConn fans think of his NBA potential:
LINK
as an aside, that forum is cracking me up reading quotes like this
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but then again he was an 18 year old freshman trying to carve out his niche on the defending champions.
they act like UConn was this monster team last year
Posted on 4/15/12 at 7:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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he'd have a lot more rebounds. rebounding is mostly just exerting effort
To be fair, he is a a great offensive rebounder. He was top 10 in the country in offensive rebounding and averaged 4.7 per 40 (1 more than Davis and Robinson).
This seems to indicate that he relies more on his natural gifts rather than positioning and boxing out for rebounding. If, and it's a big if for him, he works on those things he can be a great defensive rebounder as well.
Posted on 4/15/12 at 8:56 pm to corndeaux
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He was also at a shitty situation at Uconn with his Coach and games where the guards shut him out of the offense.
I would have shut him out of the offense, too. There's nothing that he could do on offense that warranted him getting touches or running an offense through him. I watched 3 or 4 of his games and I seriously did not see him perform one post move. All of his points came on alleys and putbacks. When they did pass the ball to him, he dribbled the ball several times with his back to the basket not making any kind of move to the goal. He also apparently lacked vision and/or passing skills when a guard came down to help. And the double team didn't come because the big man needed help stopping Drummond, it was because they knew the high likelihood of him turning the ball over or putting up some stupid shot when the help came. He looked like a complete disaster on that end of the floor. Maybe my opinion would be different if I had watched one of his better performances and maybe he showed some post skills in those games that I didn't get a chance to see, but that's my take.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:05 am to kadillak
ALL I KNOW is that if i'm a talented big man who wants to play in the NBA, i avoid UConn
UConn is a great example of a coach developing players for the college game, which detracts from developing an NBA game. okafor, josh boone, thabeet, charlie V, etc
UConn is a great example of a coach developing players for the college game, which detracts from developing an NBA game. okafor, josh boone, thabeet, charlie V, etc
Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:40 am to SlowFlowPro
and let me add i'm worried about drummond with the top 4-5 pick, but with our second pick if he's around 6-10, you have to take that gamble
Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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UConn is a great example of a coach developing players for the college game, which detracts from developing an NBA game. okafor, josh boone, thabeet, charlie V, etc
I disagree. Okafor is as good as he would ever be. He is just not fluid. Boone has no heart. Thabeet was terrible coming to UConn, and it is a miracle that he got the the NBA, IMO. Charlie V is not really a big man. He is tall and long, but he thinks he's Rudy Gay. Travis Knight played a number of years in the NBA. Jake freakin Voskuhl had almost a ten year career. Even Hilton Armstrong is still playing. None of the guys you listed were highly recruited other than Villanueva so I think it is a little disingenuous to say they weren't developed for the NBA. None of them were supposed to even play in the NBA in the first place (save for Villanueva). Please explain what you mean by "developing for the college game" so I can better understand your point?
Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:53 am to Tiger in NY
I'm not going to argue his coaching or any of that, I'll just leave you with this stat:
117th in Division 1 in Rebounds per game...game changer
117th in Division 1 in Rebounds per game...game changer
Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:58 am to Jester
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117th in Division 1 in Rebounds per game...game changer
You talking about Drummond? I think he's entirely overrated if so. He played soft as hell.
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