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re: An Opportunity for LSU Basketball - Part II

Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29448 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:30 pm to
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just because you haven't won games in big confrences doesnt mean you can't


Wow.......The guy hasn't done squat even in the crummy Sunbelt. I don't think he has finished better than 3rd in the overall standings, nor has he won a tournament game.

We are LSU.......we can afford to go out and get a proven coach, and not rely on some who has a handful of wins against crummy competition. Why should we take the chance of setting our program back further when we have the means to do otherwise?

Oh, and he is the same buffoon who nearly caused our program to get the death penalty. I'm sure the NCAA will have surely forgotten about that, and won't be back around as soon as they hear the slightest violation may have occurred.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80567 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:30 pm to
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Considering he could have chose anywhere else in america simply being his landing spot is damn good.

He couldn't choose anywhere in America he had to go play in a conference that would let him.
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:31 pm to
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The former coaches, former players and other "influences" can offer an opinion.

isn't that all they have done?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122300 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:31 pm to
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Easier.


It should have been the other way around, but yeah it is easier to win 20+ at NT. Plus, why would the university hire someone who they fired?
This post was edited on 4/12/12 at 2:32 pm
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:32 pm to
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The former coaches, former players and other "influences" can offer an opinion



they are doing nothing different than posters on this board, except people will put their thoughts in the newspaper


quote:

overwhelming politicking


you call it that, others may call it their opinion



It's fine if it's your opinion, but don't let someone else share theirs.....





too too rich

I stop posting for two years come back ne day and nothing has changed
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
30525 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:32 pm to
Yeah. I have no issues with that either. It does get to a point where it becomes a power struggle publicly.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
32921 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:34 pm to
He went to high school like 10 miles from the UNT campus.

Mitchell couldn't get in to a single legit program in the US because of his grades. So he went to a shitty school right next to home. Big deal.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37935 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:34 pm to
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It should have been the other way around, but yeah it is easier to win 20+ at NT. Plus, why would the university hire someone who they fired?




So its easier to win 20 games at NT (which had mind you 2 prior seasons of 20 wins) than LSU which is in a major conference has 4 final fours has arguably a top 5 player all time (who was in his prime and arguably the top player in the aforementioned period)?

:rotflmao:
Posted by GallatinTiger
KY
Member since Apr 2004
2233 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:35 pm to
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People really want to hate Jones. Its amazing... I am really confused by it.


Stop throwing the "hate" word around. It's not "hate", it's questioning the hiring process and desire for success in our basketball program when we know the school has the money to spend to at least pursue higher-profile coaches. Instead we're considering a former player whose coaching resume is mediocre at best. Nothing confusing about this.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
33767 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:35 pm to
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So its easier to win 20 games at NT (which had mind you 2 prior seasons of 20 wins) than LSU which is in a major conference has 4 final fours has arguably a top 5 player all time (who was in his prime and arguably the top player in the aforementioned period)?

you've compared North Texas and LSU, congrats. Now, compare the competition they both play against.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122300 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:36 pm to
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So its easier to win 20 games at NT (which had mind you 2 prior seasons of 20 wins) than LSU which is in a major conference has 4 final fours has arguably a top 5 player all time (who was in his prime and arguably the top player in the aforementioned period)?


Wow!
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
30525 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:37 pm to
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danfraz


First of all, this place will never change. Secondly, I do not care who is hired. I'm just giving you reasons why Jones is being bashed. All we hear is Jones from anybody asked. If he's the hire, so be it. But most fans want a perceived better hire given the state of the program.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37935 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:41 pm to
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you've compared North Texas and LSU, congrats. Now, compare the competition they both play against.


Irrelevant considering it is a sun belt team playing against sun belt teams. LSU was an SEC team playing SEC teams. In that case you should never hire a succesful mid major in anything...Take for instance Southern Miss' football head coach from last year...Yeah he won 10 games but it was against CUSA...Guess he could never win against a BCS conference right? How bout Meyer? Utah played in the Mountain west...cant win in the SEC.
This post was edited on 4/12/12 at 2:50 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122300 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:47 pm to
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Irrelevant considering it is a sun belt team playing against sun belt teams.


Jones is 91-88 in conference at a Sun Belt school. Is he the best coach in Sun Belt?
This post was edited on 4/12/12 at 7:02 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37935 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:49 pm to
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Jones is 91-88 in conference at a CUSA school. Is he the best coach in CUSA?


Context and trends. In the last six years he had a streak of 5 straight 20 win seasons...BTW its sun belt you idiot.

Also as for the competition argument the last coach to take us to a final four hasnt won more than 17 games in a season while coaching a school playing in that league.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122300 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:51 pm to
BTW North Texas is in the Sun Belt.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37935 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:51 pm to
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BTW North Texas is in the Sun Belt.


Tell yourself that dumbass...I never said anything different
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29448 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:52 pm to
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Context and trends. In the last six years he had a streak of 5 straight 20 win seasons...BTW its sun belt you idiot.


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Also as for the competition argument the last coach to take us to a final four hasnt won more than 17 games in a season while coaching a school playing in that league.


If this is completely serious, I now understand how some of these crooked and phony public officials keep getting re-elected.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37935 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:56 pm to
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If this is completely serious


Serious as a heartattack. You have to be a solid coach to go 5 straight seasons with that many wins. No he wasnt playing SEC caliber teams but he doesnt have SEC caliber players

Its not like just any old schmuck can pull off that type of run regardless of conference. IE Brady as an example. Brady was a mediocre SEC coach. Still cant replicate what Jones did.
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
Geismar
Member since Dec 2009
5253 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 3:11 pm to
Guys that get these kind of jobs are dominant in crappy conferences not decent.
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