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re: IF Tiger beats Jack's major record...
Posted on 4/9/12 at 5:11 pm to jcole4lsu
Posted on 4/9/12 at 5:11 pm to jcole4lsu
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jack and arnold will always be golf's favorite sons. tiger has relinquished any claim to that crown.
people hated jack when he played. bottom line is that neither jack nor arnie is a true sports icon like tiger is.
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Posted on 4/9/12 at 5:11 pm to lsugolf1105
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jack had more 2nd's. what a joke
I know in the big scheme it's about the W. However, you must admit golf is a slightly different animal, because you have no physical control over what your opponent might do. So I do think the 2nd place finishes, top tens have at least some merit when it comes to golf. For example, I'd say Lee Westwood is better than Angel Cabrera or John Daly and both have two majors each.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 5:12 pm to tigerblood29
We need a damn golf board I tell ya. 
The Masters thread last weekend was pretty awesome. Too bad this week's golf thread will be like 20 pages.
/hijack
The Masters thread last weekend was pretty awesome. Too bad this week's golf thread will be like 20 pages.
/hijack
This post was edited on 4/9/12 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 4/9/12 at 5:13 pm to texastiger38
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I have no proof, but I think it went at an accelerated rate so people could catch up to Tiger.
it didnt accelerate so that people could catch up to tiger, thats silly.
it may have sped up due to increased interest in the sport, which resulted in increased revenues for the companies that research and develop golf related technologies.
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I don't have a single name but I think as a whole golfers are better athletes because they saw how good Tiger was being pretty much the only athlete on tour.
so they quit drinking beer and did some crunches?
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People that hate Tiger still won't call him the greatest, for various reasons.
as already stated, there is a difference between greatest (empircal) and most important (subjective).
Posted on 4/9/12 at 5:13 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
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I know in the big scheme it's about the W. However, you must admit golf is a slightly different animal, because you have no physical control over what your opponent might do. So I do think the 2nd place finishes, top tens have at least some merit when it comes to golf. For example, I'd say Lee Westwood is better than Angel Cabrera or John Daly and both have two majors each.
i agree but when you have better numbers in every meaningful category (total wins, majors, winning %, money titles, POY's, scoring titles) and only fall short on 2nd's in majors, you are clearly the best.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 5:15 pm to lsugolf1105
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when you have better numbers in every meaningful category (total wins, majors, winning %, money titles, POY's, scoring titles) and only fall short on 2nd's in majors, you are clearly the best
agreed
Posted on 4/9/12 at 5:18 pm to texastiger38
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I think Tiger brought a broader fan base to the game
I will never say he didn't do this. But Tiger didn't have an ARNIE to go against . Think about it. Plus a Player AND A WATSON. YES TIGER dominated, but there is NO golfer that Tiger had to go against as consistantly good as those Jack had to go against. THIS IS FACT.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 5:18 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
another thing to consider. how much harder is it to be the best golfer in the world today,as opposed to when jack was on top. much more scrutiny on everything tiger does than jack ever had to deal with
Posted on 4/9/12 at 5:19 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
Another quick point on the 2nds in Majors...I think even then, it's context...i.e. Nicklaus' runner up finish to Watson at Turnberry ranks a little higher than say, Ernie Els finishing second (by 15 shots) to Woods at Pebble.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 5:20 pm to dukke v
much deeper fields today,more guys to compete with every week. you just named every good golfer of that era. and mickelson doesn't compare to those guys?
This post was edited on 4/9/12 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 4/9/12 at 5:22 pm to lsugolf1105
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i agree but when you have better numbers in every meaningful category (total wins, majors, winning %, money titles, POY's, scoring titles) and only fall short on 2nd's in majors, you are clearly the best.
The money is irrelevant in this topic.
He doesn't have the Majors .
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POY's
Nobody was close to him. The COMP was different.
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scoring titles)
SEE ABOVE. But I will give him this.
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you are clearly the best.
Not clearly.
Ok. Who was better??? Sampras, Laver, Borg Or FED?????
Posted on 4/9/12 at 5:22 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
exactly, tiger has dominated courses like nobody ever has. how many golf courses were altered, specifically because of tiger's dominance? did they ever change a course to try to stop jack?
This post was edited on 4/9/12 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 4/9/12 at 5:23 pm to tigerblood29
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how much harder is it to be the best golfer in the world today,as opposed to when jack was on top
jack had a hell of a lot more competition. he competed in golf's golden age.
who is the best golfer that tiger has had to reguarly beat to win a major, and compare that person to arnold palmer, tom watson, gary player, et al.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 5:23 pm to tigerblood29
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much deeper fields today,more guys to compete with every week. you just named every good golfer of that era.
Thats still better than NOW. Or even the last 15 years.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 5:24 pm to tigerblood29
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much deeper fields today,more guys to compete with every week. you just named every good golfer of that era. and mickelson doesn't compare to those guys?
you really are out of your mind.
the fields may be deeper now, but the top players of that era are better than the top players of today - sans tiger.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 5:25 pm to jcole4lsu
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who is the best golfer that tiger has had to reguarly beat to win a major, and compare that person to arnold palmer, tom watson, gary player, et al.
Someone GETS IT.
Posted on 4/9/12 at 5:26 pm to dukke v
The top golfers today are better than anybody in the past. Tougher courses and better equipment make for better players old man. Rory would take Jack to the woodshed.
This post was edited on 4/9/12 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 4/9/12 at 5:26 pm to tigerblood29
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did they ever change a course to try to stop jack?
was jack hitting with the clubs that tiger was hitting with?
the club/ball technology today is light years ahead of the stuff from the 60/70s
Posted on 4/9/12 at 5:26 pm to jcole4lsu
i was talking about all the media scrutiny, and the added pressure of expectations. nobody was ever bashing jack on twitter
Posted on 4/9/12 at 5:27 pm to Deactived
as are the courses. have you ever seen what the greens looked like back then? looks like today's light rough
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