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Ye_Olde_Tiger 
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| re: Zimmerman's Father Speaks Out (Posted on 4/5/12 at 11:53 am to trackfan)
This isn't FBI forensics...its 'an expert' using technology '99% like that' of the CIA/FBI...
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NC_Tigah
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| re: Zimmerman's Father Speaks Out (Posted on 4/5/12 at 11:54 am to Elcid96)
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Not trying to argue here, but why couldn't the be screaming for his life after he got shot?
If you'd listened to the 911 audio just once, just one little time, before that post, you'd have never written it. If you take the time listen to the 911 audio just once, just one little time, at some point in the future you'll be embarrassed at what you wrote.
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StinkBait72
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| re: Zimmerman's Father Speaks Out (Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:01 pm to trackfan)
Yeah that's the same 2 "experts" hired by The Orlando Media. I was hoping for the actual FBI findings so we can get some actual evidence on this blown up case.
After what the media said about the racial slur, the first police video, and the editing of the 911 calls, It's hard to believe anything they put out now.
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NC_Tigah
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| re: Zimmerman's Father Speaks Out (Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:06 pm to Ye_Olde_Tiger)
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This isn't FBI forensics...its 'an expert' using technology '99% like that'
. . . . '99% like that' of CNN's super duper audio enhanced "coon" detector. 
3 weeks later, CNN's new super duper audio enhanced detector says GZ actually said "cold" not coons. Ooooops!
You've got multiple eyewitnesses in different locations describing the event AS IT UNFOLDED. Their contemporary descriptions coincide 100% with GZ's account.
But a couple of publicity hounds claim they can prove the screams that night were actually coming from Jane Fonda yelling into a muffler through an acoustic window connecting Sanford with Beverly Hills. It's an unusual thing, but possible . . . . then again, no.
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Fat Bastard 
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| re: Zimmerman's Father Speaks Out (Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:09 pm to NC_Tigah)
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Are you an idiot in real life, or do you just play one on the internet?
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Fat Bastard
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| re: Zimmerman's Father Speaks Out (Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:11 pm to Gaston)
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I'm a physicist/engineer IRL, on here I'm strongest, fastest, smartest motherfricker you've ever met.
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trackfan
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| re: Zimmerman's Father Speaks Out (Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:13 pm to NC_Tigah)
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. . . . '99% like that' of CNN's super duper audio enhanced "coon" detector.
3 weeks later, CNN's new super duper audio enhanced detector says GZ actually said "cold" not coons. Ooooops!
I never accepted it as incontrovertible fact that he said coon, even when I heard the enhanced version of the tape. Besides, we're not trying to determine whether or not Zimmerman is a racist, we're trying to find out if he murdered Martin in cold blood.
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You've got multiple eyewitnesses in different locations describing the event AS IT UNFOLDED. Their contemporary descriptions coincide 100% with GZ's account.
But a couple of publicity hounds claim they can prove the screams that night were actually coming from Jane Fonda yelling into a muffler through an acoustic window connecting Sanford with Beverly Hills. It's an unusual thing, but possible . . . . then again, no.
You've obviously made up your mind what happened, so I guess it's pointless to debate facts and evidence with you.
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StinkBait72
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| re: Zimmerman's Father Speaks Out (Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:15 pm to NC_Tigah)
I have yet to see anyone ask the accuracy of this type of analysis considering the test sample was taken from inside a house and through a phone line. Was the actual tape from the dispatcher used or just a recording provided by the media? One would think that would alter the sound a bit. Maybe the technology is that far advanced or the media may be just looking for something else to back up their original claims.
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RollTide1987 
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| re: Zimmerman's Father Speaks Out (Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:15 pm to NC_Tigah)
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You've got multiple eyewitnesses in different locations describing the event AS IT UNFOLDED. Their contemporary descriptions coincide 100% with GZ's account.
This is why I simply laughed when the media brought in an "expert" who enhanced the audio on the 911 call and came to the conclusion that the screaming wasn't Zimmerman's.
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RollTide1987
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| re: Zimmerman's Father Speaks Out (Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:17 pm to trackfan)
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You've obviously made up your mind what happened, so I guess it's pointless to debate facts and evidence with you.
The facts and evidence he provided in that blurb are real though. There are multiple eyewitnesses who back up Zimmerman's testimony.
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lsu6294
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| re: Zimmerman's Father Speaks Out (Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:20 pm to trackfan)
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You've obviously made up your mind what happened, so I guess it's pointless to debate facts and evidence with you.
Well, given the source id say the "fact" that it isn't GZ screaming is about as solid as the "fact" that he said coon. Not to say definitively that it was GZ screaming, but there's a greater quantity and quality of evidence that backs GZ's statement. You cannot deny this.
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StinkBait72
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| re: Zimmerman's Father Speaks Out (Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:26 pm to lsu6294)
Every "strong" piece of evidence the media has reported or tried to push has backfired on them so far within a week. I see this being no different, and if the FBI does say they can not come to a conclusion on the scream, the media will slowly back away and find some other new ground breaking evidence in the case...
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Elcid96
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| re: Zimmerman's Father Speaks Out (Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:38 pm to NC_Tigah)
What part of not trying to argue didn't u understand
Go back I admitted I didn't listen to the tape and didn't know the shot happened an screams stopped I admitted I do t know all the evidence you dolt!
I also know that nobody but the investigators do, now go play in traffic!
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NC_Tigah
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| re: Zimmerman's Father Speaks Out (Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:38 pm to trackfan)
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You've obviously made up your mind what happened, so I guess it's pointless to debate facts and evidence with you.
facts and evidence are EXACTLY what I was discussing. Go back and read my comments about the "coon" "enhanced" audio when the unedited 911 tapes were released. Compare them to the facts as we now know them.
You cannot possibly seriously believe two nitwits stating (weeks after the incident) their audio voice "analysis" trumps the taped real-time accounts of every eyewitness on the scene, can you? I mean as long as we're talking "facts and evidence"?
BTW, I say "nitwits," because they've arrived at their ""conclusions"" having assessed no appropriately comparative baseline Zimmerman voice material at all.
You do know that right?
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DCRebel
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| re: Zimmerman's Father Speaks Out (Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:43 pm to sec13rowBBseat28)
Wait a minute, you mean that George Zimmerman's father (who was NOT there when it happened), corroborated his son's story word-for-word!
STOP THE PRESSES!
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sec13rowBBseat28
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| re: Zimmerman's Father Speaks Out (Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:47 pm to trackfan)
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The FBI forensic analysts say that there is a 99% chance that the scream on the tape is NOT Zimmerman.
This is 100% bull shite.
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let Joe Horn walk is because we all wish we had neighbors like him
Speak for yourself.
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LSUnKaty
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| re: Zimmerman's Father Speaks Out (Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:48 pm to DCRebel)
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corroborated his son's story word-for-word!
This is so typical.
No one (except you) said he corroborated anything.
He went on TV in lieu of his son (I hope you don't hold it against the accused if he desires to remain incognito right now) to give his son's side of the story.
Do you have a problem with that?
There are other witnesses that have corroborated Zimmerman's story BTW.
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sec13rowBBseat28
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| re: Zimmerman's Father Speaks Out (Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:50 pm to DCRebel)
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corroborated his son's story word-for-word!
corroborated the witnesses story also.
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RollTide1987
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| re: Zimmerman's Father Speaks Out (Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:52 pm to DCRebel)
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Wait a minute, you mean that George Zimmerman's father (who was NOT there when it happened), corroborated his son's story word-for-word!
Why do you choose to ignore the testimony from witnesses who were there?
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DCRebel
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| re: Zimmerman's Father Speaks Out (Posted on 4/5/12 at 12:54 pm to LSUnKaty)
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No one (except you) said he corroborated anything.
The story quoted in the OP is no different than the story we've already been told. I really don't know why his father "speaking out" only to say the exact same thing we've already heard is worthy of a thread. That's my point.
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He went on TV in lieu of his son (I hope you don't hold it against the accused if he desires to remain incognito right now) to give his son's side of the story.
Do you have a problem with that?
No.
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There are other witnesses that have corroborated Zimmerman's story BTW.
I realize that.
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