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CP3LSU25  LSU Fan Lafayette Member since Feb 2009 28832 posts

| re: No charges for woman who lied about dad raping her [dad given 15 years in 2002] (Posted on 4/3/12 at 9:44 am to udtiger)
this dumb cunt should pay for this. What a disgusting shame.
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Siderophore  LSU Fan Member since Nov 2010 3334 posts

| re: No charges for woman who lied about dad raping her [dad given 15 years in 2002] (Posted on 4/3/12 at 10:07 am to CptBengal)
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Never mind that a large portion of all "rapes" are either outright lies or later recanted....
Or better yet: it can be considered rape by if if she is drunk. Even if you both are.
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BusinessCat  USA Fan Caton Rouge Member since Nov 2011 46 posts

| re: No charges for woman who lied about dad raping her [dad given 15 years in 2002] (Posted on 4/3/12 at 10:16 am to dyslexiateechur)
I think what you're saying is spot-on, FWIW. All of the signs were there and it is hard to blame the prosecution. At the same time, I don't think she should get off too easily, since she has been an adult for a number of years and could have come forward much sooner. And especially when the reason for not pressing charges is that they don't want to scare girls from coming forward. If our laws were like that all around, there would be a whole lot more people getting away with crimes 
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CptBengal  USA Fan BR Baby Member since Dec 2007 30931 posts
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| re: No charges for woman who lied about dad raping her [dad given 15 years in 2002] (Posted on 4/3/12 at 10:19 am to HeadCoach)
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You talk out of your arse as much as anyone on this site.
go back to the rant....stats is my game:
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According to former Colorado state prosecutor, Craig Silverman, up to 45% of rape accusations could be fallacious. He went on to say that he was amazed by the amount of false rape accusations that are made by women. “During my time as a prosecutor who made case filing decisions, I was amazed to see all the false rape allegations that were made to the Denver Police Department. It was remarkable and surprising to me. You would have to see it to believe it. Any honest veteran sex assault investigator will tell you that rape is one of the most falsely reported crimes that there is. A command officer in the Denver Police sex assaults unit recently told me he placed the false rape numbers at approximately 45 percent.” [1] Charles P. McDowell and Eugene J. Kanin Vast amounts of studies have been conducted at university facilities and the military, with some publications obtaining a large amount of data from police reports. All studies revealed similar findings. Charles P McDowell and Eugene J. Kanin have produced the most comprehensive and reliable studies so far, using the most reliable methods to collect data: Charles P McDowell's initial study, which was produced within the military, created some confusion due to his methods producing non-conclusive results in 46% of cases. In further studies he altered the methods used so that the results were conclusive. McDowell's follow-up studies gained qualification-status from other investigators. McDowell also took his study outside of the military by examining police reports from a major Midwestern city and a major southwestern city. His study confirmed that 60% of rape accusations were false. [2] Eugene J. Kanin's studies covered a period of 9 years (1978 until 1987) -- the time when rape was a heavily debated political issue. The study was performed in a city small enough to allow for careful investigation but large enough to produce a useful sample of 109 cases; was remote from the extreme crime conditions found in large communities; was not part of a resort area, meaning the majority of the population were local residents and NOT tourists. Unfounded accusations were separated from false accusations, which allowed for more conclusive results. [2] Eugene J. Kanin followed his basic report with studies performed in two Midwestern state universities. Conducted over 3 years, the studies concluded in 1988. These studies revealed that at least 50% of the 64 reported rape accusations were false. This finding was quite important, as a considerable amount of women from the main report were members of the lower socio-economic demographic -- indicating that false accusations could be linked to income and educational status. Eugene J. Kanin checked figures from university police departments, and followed it up by stating; "quite unexpectedly then, we find that these university women, when filing a rape complaint, were as likely to file a false as a valid charge". [2] Another study (Jay 1991) produced similar findings to Eugene J. Kanin's study. [2]
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Sacks, Glenn. "During My Time as a Prosecutor I was Amazed to See all the False Rape Allegations that Were Made?" MensNewsDaily.com, 22 April 2007. Zepezauer, Frank S. "Believe Her! The Woman Never Lies Myth" (22 April 2007) IPT Journal, Volume 6, 1994 [Webpage]
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skygod123  LSU Fan Lafayette Member since Nov 2007 27272 posts
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| re: No charges for woman who lied about dad raping her [dad given 15 years in 2002] (Posted on 4/3/12 at 10:25 am to BusinessCat)
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At the same time, I don't think she should get off too easily, since she has been an adult for a number of years and could have come forward much sooner.
This is my major issue with it. She made the deicision as an adult to stay silent for years, knowing she made shite up.
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And especially when the reason for not pressing charges is that they don't want to scare girls from coming forward. If our laws were like that all around, there would be a whole lot more people getting away with crimes
And, that has absolutely no logic. First, if a victim doesnt go forward... it more likely than not has nothing to do with what they may have heard about in the news. It's more much personal than that. Most victims know their assailant, so the reason they dont come forward has to do with social ties, not how a prosecutor handled a lying meth head 15 states away.
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skygod123  LSU Fan Lafayette Member since Nov 2007 27272 posts
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| re: No charges for woman who lied about dad raping her [dad given 15 years in 2002] (Posted on 4/3/12 at 10:25 am to CptBengal)
thanks for posting! figured you didnt pull it out your ass. just didnt know where you got it from.
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Rouge  USA Fan Member since Oct 2004 86509 posts

| re: No charges for woman who lied about dad raping her [dad given 15 years in 2002] (Posted on 4/3/12 at 10:27 am to skygod123)
does Double Jeopardy apply in a situation like this? oooooooooooooooh right
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tigergym  New Orleans Saints Fan Da Bayou Member since Jan 2009 715 posts

| re: No charges for woman who lied about dad raping her [dad given 15 years in 2002] (Posted on 4/3/12 at 10:28 am to dyslexiateechur)
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Seems like a very disturbed person.
Ya think?? She should be charged. At least with purgery.
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CptBengal  USA Fan BR Baby Member since Dec 2007 30931 posts
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| re: No charges for woman who lied about dad raping her [dad given 15 years in 2002] (Posted on 4/3/12 at 10:29 am to skygod123)
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just didnt know where you got it from.
there are many more studies with varying percentages of false claims..ranges from like 40% all the way up to 75% in some of the studies. Then you get into the legal hypocrisy of false rape claim prosecution, and you realize the whole thing is a joke.
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skygod123  LSU Fan Lafayette Member since Nov 2007 27272 posts
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| re: No charges for woman who lied about dad raping her [dad given 15 years in 2002] (Posted on 4/3/12 at 10:30 am to tigergym)
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purgery.
just an fyi. its perjury.
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Rouge  USA Fan Member since Oct 2004 86509 posts

| re: No charges for woman who lied about dad raping her [dad given 15 years in 2002] (Posted on 4/3/12 at 10:30 am to CptBengal)

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BusinessCat  USA Fan Caton Rouge Member since Nov 2011 46 posts

| re: No charges for woman who lied about dad raping her [dad given 15 years in 2002] (Posted on 4/3/12 at 10:30 am to skygod123)
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And, that has absolutely no logic. First, if a victim doesnt go forward... it more likely than not has nothing to do with what they may have heard about in the news. It's more much personal than that. Most victims know their assailant, so the reason they dont come forward has to do with social ties, not how a prosecutor handled a lying meth head 15 states away.
Exactly. Not to mention that the lesson anybody would take would be "DON'T LIE ABOUT RAPE..." not "DON'T TRY TO PUT AWAY YOUR ASSAILANT!" If anything, by not pressing charges against her, they are encouraging young women to accuse falsely, right? Their lack of logic worries me, as the are the ones in charge of enforcing our laws. 
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dyslexiateechur  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Jan 2009 21977 posts

| re: No charges for woman who lied about dad raping her [dad given 15 years in 2002] (Posted on 4/3/12 at 10:31 am to CptBengal)
your studies were done back in the 80's....I dare say it's probably a lot higher now.
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Poodlebrain  LSU Fan Way Right of Rex Member since Jan 2004 12895 posts

| re: No charges for woman who lied about dad raping her [dad given 15 years in 2002] (Posted on 4/3/12 at 10:31 am to Archie Bengal Bunker)
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That is the only reason I can see for not pressing charges [that she was so young], but damn.
It took 10 years for her to feel remorse! I'm sorry, but I'd prosecute for the 3 years she waited after turning 18 at the least. The state is going to end up compensating the father for the time he served. Why should the state absorb that cost as a consequence of the daughters deliberate act without her suffering any consequences? All the decision not to prosecute does is demonstrate that females have incredible leverage with claims of rape. They can make the allewgation without fear of consequences. This will not prevent women from reporting actual assaults, it will only encourage more false reports.
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BusinessCat  USA Fan Caton Rouge Member since Nov 2011 46 posts

| re: No charges for woman who lied about dad raping her [dad given 15 years in 2002] (Posted on 4/3/12 at 10:33 am to Poodlebrain)
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ll the decision not to prosecute does is demonstrate that females have incredible leverage with claims of rape. They can make the allewgation without fear of consequences. This will not prevent women from reporting actual assaults, it will only encourage more false reports.
You put it a lot better than I did.. 
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skygod123  LSU Fan Lafayette Member since Nov 2007 27272 posts
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| re: No charges for woman who lied about dad raping her [dad given 15 years in 2002] (Posted on 4/3/12 at 10:34 am to CptBengal)
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Then you get into the legal hypocrisy of false rape claim prosecution, and you realize the whole thing is a joke.
i wouldnt go that far. im not saying girls are asking for it, but i think its stupid to put yourself in a situation with someone you dont know (therefore have no way of knowing they are trustworthy) and just think everything is gonna be okay. i have lots of chick friends who set themselves up for risk, unnecessarily.
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skygod123  LSU Fan Lafayette Member since Nov 2007 27272 posts
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| re: No charges for woman who lied about dad raping her [dad given 15 years in 2002] (Posted on 4/3/12 at 10:36 am to Rouge)
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Rouge
is that hanging framed in your house?
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Rouge  USA Fan Member since Oct 2004 86509 posts

| re: No charges for woman who lied about dad raping her [dad given 15 years in 2002] (Posted on 4/3/12 at 10:37 am to skygod123)
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is that hanging framed in your house?
yep a certain LLotOT made it for me
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CptBengal  USA Fan BR Baby Member since Dec 2007 30931 posts
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| re: No charges for woman who lied about dad raping her [dad given 15 years in 2002] (Posted on 4/3/12 at 10:38 am to skygod123)
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Then you get into the legal hypocrisy of false rape claim prosecution, and you realize the whole thing is a joke. i wouldnt go that far.
really? What is the typical prosecution of a false rape allegation. One that very well can put a man in jail, as in the OP. (hint: google has your answer, and it won't help your argument)
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| re: No charges for woman who lied about dad raping her [dad given 15 years in 2002] (Posted on 4/3/12 at 10:40 am to Archie Bengal Bunker)
because of double jeopardy, the dad can now rape her without going to jail. that'll show her.
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