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re: Case-Shiller: Home prices fall in January
Posted on 3/27/12 at 10:37 am to kfizzle85
Posted on 3/27/12 at 10:37 am to kfizzle85
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REITs are so levered to begin with any movement in the market is going to be amplified there, up or down, so again not sure I put much stock in that market performance as some kind of forward-looking indicator.
It's not just REIT's that are doing well. Builders etc. like TOL, MDC, and LEN are looking great.
When several stocks in a sector are outperforming the market (100% to the upside for various RE stocks vs. 25% upside for the market) it is definitely worth noticing.
Notice I haven't said I'm a buyer yet. I would like to see a move to the downside that doesn't make a lower low.
I don't expect bubble like behavior from the RE market stocks. I do expect a steady uptrend though.
Posted on 3/27/12 at 12:19 pm to LSU0358
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It's not just REIT's that are doing well. Builders etc. like TOL, MDC, and LEN are looking great.
I understand that, which is why I said:
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in that time frame and every report I saw from homebuilders (Lennar, Beazer, KB) was shite, so I'm not sure I believe that market movement is worth anything
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When several stocks in a sector are outperforming the market (100% to the upside for various RE stocks vs. 25% upside for the market) it is definitely worth noticing. I don't expect bubble like behavior from the RE market stocks. I do expect a steady uptrend though.
Definitely worth noticing, but I'm not sure it implies a whole lot, which is all I'm saying. I'm not even saying it hasn't hit a low, C-S is a 3 month average, I just don't think there's a lot of fundamentals to back up giant jumps in market prices (I'm just assuming this based on what you said, I haven't looked at any) that indicate some kind of substantial growth. When you're going from flat to negative housing trends to potentially just barely positive in the near future, I would expect everything to jump, but just barely positive or something like 2 or 3 percent appreciation a year isn't going to drive REITs and homebuilder bonkers. If you think its going to outpace that general number (so define "steady uptrend"), what are you basing that on?
This post was edited on 3/27/12 at 12:22 pm
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