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Mound City Blue Blowers - "I Ain't Got Nobody"/"My Gal Sal" 1929

I really enjoyed this when I saw it for the first time a few years ago on TCM. The Mound City Blue Blowers are the kind of act you might have seen in a Chicago vaudeville theatre of the time. Their sound -- not quite jazz, not quite folk -- would be rediscovered a generation later by English teenagers such as John Lennon of Quarry School Liverpool. They would call it "skiffle".


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Pine Top Smith - "Pine Top's Boogie Woogie" (1928)

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On 29 December 1928 he recorded his influential "Pine Top's Boogie Woogie," one of the first "boogie woogie" style recordings to make a hit, and which cemented the name for the style. Pine Top talks over the recording, telling how to dance to the number. He said he originated the number at a house-rent party in St. Louis, Missouri. Smith was the first ever to direct "the girl with the red dress on" to "not move a peg" until told to "shake that thing" and "mess around".

Smith was scheduled to make another recording session for Vocalion in 1929, but died from a gunshot wound in a dance-hall fight in Chicago the day before the session. Sources differ as to whether he was the intended recipient of the bullet. "I saw Pinetop spit blood" was the famous headline in Down Beat magazine.

No photographs of Smith are known to exist.


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Al Dexter - "Pistol Packin' Mama" (1943)

"Pistol Packin' Mama" is notable as one of the first songs, after "You Are My Sunshine" had blazed the trail a couple of years earlier, to cross over from country music onto the pop charts. Bing Crosby's cover would go to #1 and sell over two million copies.

The song was so popular the Duke of Windsor was caught humming the tune in public, and Irving Berlin wrote in his score for Annie Get Your Gun: "But men don't buy pajamas, for pistol packin' mamas, oh you can't get a man with a gun...". Life magazine would eventually refer to the song as "a national earache".

It made a lot of people who'd never paid much attention to country music aware of the genre.


Al Dexter:

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The song was so immensely popular it inspired a film the same year it was released:

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A WWII airplane:

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Rev. A.W. Nix - "Black Diamond Express To Hell" (1927)

Part 1

Part 2

Mostly a sermon, with some singing by Rev. Nix and a chorus near the end of Part 2. Compare his vocal to Blind Willie Johnson - "John The Revelator" (the female vocal on this is amazing -- remember this is 1930).

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"Death May Be Your Christmas Present"? A possible influence on Mott The Hoople ?

Interesting article on black gospel of the '20s and '30s


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A couple of Calypso standards:

King Radio - "Mathilda" (1938)

King Radio - "Man Smart Woman Smarter" (1936) -- Some may know this song as a concert staple of the Grateful Dead. I first heard it in a cover by Robert Palmer. Roseanne Cash did a country version around the same time, but I don't think it works sung by a woman.

"Man Smart Woman Smarter" had been popularized in the US by Harry Belafonte in the early '50s. This version was covered a few years later by... Desi Arnaz in one of the last I Love Lucy episodes.


King Radio

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Here’s a group that influenced lots of folks. The were truly pre-WWII. The Original Carter Family (A.P. Delaney Carter, his wife Sara and sister-in-law, Maybelle Carter (Mother Maybelle) stopped recording in 1942.

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I actually posted the Carter Family's version of "Are You Lonesome Tonight?" on page 5 (also Wikipedia claims it's from 1936, not 1927)

There's a PBS American Masters documentary on the Carter Family you can read about here

The Carter Family - "No Depression In Heaven"

This song would give a name to a musical movement more than 50 years after its release


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You are correct on the year...Looks like I had a typo.

I have watched that PBS special. Thanks for sharing.


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Thanks for sharing


Thank you

It's nice getting a reply to this thread every few months


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Has anyone posted these?

Charley Patton

Sweet Emma

Bo Carter

Ida Cox


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Whoa Nellie -- I thought there were only two extant photographs of Robert Johnson. When was this discovered?


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Found in 2007, not confirmed but believed to be him.


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Thomas Dorsey (July 1, 1899 – January 23, 1993) was known as "the father of black gospel music" and was at one time so closely associated with the field that songs written in the new style were sometimes known as "dorseys". Earlier in his life he was a leading blues pianist known as Georgia Tom.


Thomas Dorsey in his "Georgia Tom" days:

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After hearing the call:



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As formulated by Dorsey, gospel music combines Christian praise with the rhythms of jazz and the blues. His conception also deviates from what had been, to that time, standard hymnal practice by referring explicitly to the self, and the self's relation to faith and God, rather than the individual subsumed into the group via belief.

Dorsey, who was born in Villa Rica, Georgia, was the music director at Pilgrim Baptist Church in Chicago from 1932 until the late 1970s. His best known composition, "Take My Hand, Precious Lord", was performed by Mahalia Jackson and was a favorite of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.. Another composition, "Peace in the Valley", was a hit for Red Foley in 1951 and has been performed by dozens of other artists, including Queen of Gospel Albertina Walker, Elvis Presley and Johnny Cash. Dorsey died in Chicago, aged 93.


"If You See My Savior"

The Flying Clouds Of Detroit - "Peace In The Valley" (1946)

Hank Williams Sr - "Precious Lord, Take My Hand"



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The original rockstar.

John McCormack - It's A Long Way To Tipperary


John McCormack - I Hear You Calling Me

John McCormack - My Wild Irish Rose

Grande Maestro: John McCormack - Il mio tesoro

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Lawrence Tibbett and John McCormack got into a friendly argument about their respective B-flats. "I can sing a better B-flat than you can" Tibbett proclaimed and produced a sample. McCormack grinned and replied "Maybe so...but I get more money for my B-flats than you do." This ended the argument.


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Famous for his extraordinary breath control, he could sing 64 notes on one breath in Mozart's Il mio tesoro from Don Giovanni, and his Handelian singing was just as impressive in this regard.

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McCormack made hundreds of recordings... also broadcast regularly by radio and performed in a few sound films, among them the first British colour film, Wings of the Morning (1937), and Orson Welles' Citizen Kane (1941), where he had a small uncredited part.

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...had apartments in London and New York. He hoped that one of his racehorses, such as Golden Lullaby, would win the Epsom Derby, but he was unlucky.

McCormack also bought Runyon Canyon in Hollywood in 1930 from Carman Runyon.

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...made many friends in Hollywood, among them Will Rogers, John Barrymore, Basil Rathbone, Charles E. Toberman and the Dohenys.


Boardwalk got me on this kick, DWI.


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This is the flip side of the only record released by country singer Arthur Miles, recorded in Dallas in 1927:

Arthur Miles - "Lonely Cowboy Pt. II"

That curious sound he makes between verses, reminiscent of a Jew's harp, is called overtone_singing or "throat singing"


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"When I was very young," the late Ralph J. Gleason wrote in a review of Moondance, "I saw a film version of the life of John McCormack, the Irish tenor, playing himself. In it he explained to his accompanist that the element necessary to mark the important voice off from the other good ones was very specific. 'You have to have,' he said, 'the yarrrrragh in your voice.'"

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