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re: Old Timey -- a thread for pre-rock country, folk, and blues

Posted on 8/2/12 at 11:28 pm to
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/2/12 at 11:28 pm to
American Roots Radio, the world's awesomest radio show, is on Sirius/XM ch 30 The Loft right now until 1 AM.

If you like the kind of music discussed in this thread, you absolutely should check it out.

LINK

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What is "American Roots Radio"?

The objective of "American Roots Radio" is to present a comprehensive and varied overview of American roots music encompassing all genres.

Our desire is to feature the architects and pioneers, interpreters and stylists who have created, crafted and worked in formats that were invented and honed in the U.S.A.

"American Roots Radio" is Country and Blues and so much more. While it features all styles of the latter you’ll hear Rock ‘n Roll, Jazz, Hillbilly, Rockabilly, Bluegrass, Bee Bop, Doo Wop, Boogie Woogie, 20’s Swing, Western Swing, Zydeco, Native American, Surf pioneers, Big Band, R n' B, Soul, Folk, Tejon, Gospel, Hawaiian and The Great American Songbook.

If it’s the root of an American musical genre, you’ll find it on American Roots Radio - The Rock of All Ages.

Lend an ear to our musical heritage and visit us for a little commentary and a lot of music!

Airing on Sirius/XM Channel 30 every Saturday night at 6pm Eastern / 3pm Pacific with a new show every other week. Repeat broadcasts air every Thursday at midnight Eastern / 9 Pacific.


Posted by TaserTiger
Houston
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Posted on 8/3/12 at 4:24 am to
Kafka - covers. You like covers? OK, got another New Orleans related song.

Clarence "Tom" Ashley & Gwen Foster - "House Of The Rising Sun" (Rising Sun Blues) - 1933/1934

Wiki link : The House of the Rising Sun

Covers galore:
Roy Acuff - "The Rising Sun" - 1938 - sorry, best I could do on U (song starts at 2:40)
Woodie Guthrie - "House Of The Rising Sun" - 1941
The Animals - "The House Of The Rising Sun" - 1964 - the (arguably) most famous cover.

Many more covers - see Wiki link...

This is a great song. Not to be so repetitious, but again, thanks for a great thread.

Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/3/12 at 10:03 am to
The youtube embed on that page is blocked on my work server, is there any way to stream older episodes?
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/3/12 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

The House of the Rising Sun

I was going to do a similar post with this same song. Thanks for sparing me the effort.

I don't want to get too much into post-WWII covers, especially rock-era covers, since that might derail the thread's old-timey mission, but there are a few worth noting:

Libby Holman with Josh White (c.1947)

Dave van Ronk -- van Ronk claims both Dylan and the Animals based their version on this (Dylan admits it, the Animals deny it)

Nina Simone -- another version that is said to have inspired the Animals

Seldom Scene

quote:

The Animals - "The House Of The Rising Sun" - 1964 - the (arguably) most famous cover


not arguably -- Inarguably
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/3/12 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

The youtube embed on that page is blocked on my work server, is there any way to stream older episodes?


Not sure what you're referring to

I just searched "American Roots Radio" on YouTube and found PBS American Roots. This is something completely different from the ARR show hosted on Sirius/XM by Bernie Taupin (Elton John's lyricist!).

American Roots Music (PBS.org)

PBS American Roots Episode 1: Chapter 1

Back to American Roots Radio, if anybody knows of anyway to hear old shows, please let me know!

For three years Bob Dylan did a similar show on Sirius/Xm called Theme Time Radio Hour. You can still hear the 100 episodes on Sirius/XM online channel 801, which is dedicated to the show. You can also hear it on Deep Tracks channel 27, on Mondays at 7:00 pm; Wednesdays at 10:00 am; Thursdays at 11:00 pm (when it unfortunately airs opposite a rerun of American Roots Radio) and Sundays at 7:00 am.

IMHO Taupin's ARR is even better, but Dylan's is definitely worth listening to.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/4/12 at 4:58 pm to
bump -- it's on Sirus/XM Ch 30 The Loft, Saturdays 5-7 pm

quote:

American Roots Radio, the world's awesomest radio show, is on Sirius/XM ch 30 The Loft right now until 1 AM.

If you like the kind of music discussed in this thread, you absolutely should check it out.

LINK
quote:

What is "American Roots Radio"?

The objective of "American Roots Radio" is to present a comprehensive and varied overview of American roots music encompassing all genres.

Our desire is to feature the architects and pioneers, interpreters and stylists who have created, crafted and worked in formats that were invented and honed in the U.S.A.

"American Roots Radio" is Country and Blues and so much more. While it features all styles of the latter you’ll hear Rock ‘n Roll, Jazz, Hillbilly, Rockabilly, Bluegrass, Bee Bop, Doo Wop, Boogie Woogie, 20’s Swing, Western Swing, Zydeco, Native American, Surf pioneers, Big Band, R n' B, Soul, Folk, Tejon, Gospel, Hawaiian and The Great American Songbook.

If it’s the root of an American musical genre, you’ll find it on American Roots Radio - The Rock of All Ages.

Lend an ear to our musical heritage and visit us for a little commentary and a lot of music!

Airing on Sirius/XM Channel 30 every Saturday night at 6pm Eastern / 3pm Pacific with a new show every other week. Repeat broadcasts air every Thursday at midnight Eastern / 9 Pacific.

Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 3:15 am to
Gene Austin - The Lonesome Road (1927)
Written as an imitation of black spirituals -- ironic in light of the next version

Sister Rosetta Tharpe - The Lonesome Road (1941)
The dancers don't really seem to be in the proper spirit of things

Frank Sinatra - The Lonesome Road (1957)
"I'm gettin' mighty weary, of this cotton pickin' load..."
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:24 pm to
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William Lyons, 25, a levee hand, was shot in the abdomen yesterday evening at 10 o'clock in the saloon of Bill Curtis, at Eleventh and Morgan Streets, by Lee Sheldon, a carriage driver. Lyons and Sheldon were friends and were talking together. Both parties, it seems, had been drinking and were feeling in exuberant spirits. The discussion drifted to politics, and an argument was started, the conclusion of which was that Lyons snatched Sheldon's hat from his head. The latter indignantly demanded its return. Lyons refused, and Sheldon withdrew his revolver and shot Lyons in the abdomen. When his victim fell to the floor Sheldon took his hat from the hand of the wounded man and coolly walked away. He was subsequently arrested and locked up at the Chestnut Street Station. Lyons was taken to the Dispensary, where his wounds were pronounced serious. Lee Sheldon is also known as 'Stag' Lee.

- St. Louis Globe-Democrat, 1895


'Stag' Lee Sheldon is infamous in folk blues as the definition of a badass. He was rumored to be nearly seven feet tall, dress with mirrored shoes and a silk suit, and shaped local politics to allow all manners of organized crime. The above quote supposedly was published by the paper to cover the actual happenings. John Lomax first published the song in 1910 as a collection of 'negro songs.' If anyone can find a recording, I would love to hear it.

Stack O' Lee Blues - Herb Wiedoeft




Billy Lyons & Stack O'Lee - Furry Lewis



Stack O'Lee Blues - Mississippi John Hurt



Stackolee - Woodie Guthrie



Stagger Lee - Lloyd Price



Stagger Lee - Taj Mahal



Modern Versions

Stack Shot Billy - The Black Keys

Stack O Lee - Sam Jack feat Cedric Burnside (Black Snake Moan - NSFW)
This post was edited on 8/14/12 at 8:29 pm
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:25 pm to
no Lloyd Price?
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17317 posts
Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

no Lloyd Price?


Jesus you're quick, I'll edit, it was just my least favorite version
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 11:33 am to
I didn't go through the whole thread so sorry if it's been mentioned here. But there is a whole channel on XM dedicated to 40s music...it's creepy as hell actually. The type of music that would be playing in the background of a torture scene in Texas chainsaw massacre.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 1:52 pm to
Didn't see any Jelly Roll Morton yet

Maple Leaf Stomp
Climax Rag
Tiger Rag

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Bozie Sturdivant - Ain't No Grave Can Hold My Body Down (The greatest blues song of all time)

Louis Armstrong - Muggles

This post was edited on 8/15/12 at 1:52 pm
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 8:27 pm to
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:19 am to
How do you ask someone if they got splinters in their arse from using an outhouse in Neshoba County?


























Did the Mississippi John Hurt?

"Spike Driver Blues" (1928) -- as included in Harry Smith's Anthology of American Folk Music (1952); see first post in thread for more details

1960s TV clip of MJH doing "SDB" -- With lots of closeups of MJH's fingering for all you aspiring guitarists

Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/27/12 at 4:00 am to
Harry McClintock



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Some of the career experience this artist had -- such as actor, poet, painter, newspaper reporter, or set designer -- is similar to what many other performing artists might list on their resumés. But as for some of the other things Harry McClintock did, he would find himself in an elite group of recording artists who have also been seamen, sheep herders, railroaders, union organizers, cowboys, hobos, and muleskinners.

Ironically, he is most remembered for songs about people who choose to do nothing at all, such as "Hallelujah I'm a Bum" and "The Big Rock Candy Mountain." He was the first artist to record what have become classic American folk songs, such as "Red River Valley," "Bury Me Not on the Lone Prairie," and "Jesse James." -- AllMusic


Three Harry McClintock tracks from 1928:

"Hallelujah, I'm a Bum"

"The Trail To Mexico"

"Ain't We Crazy" -- When I was just a wee tot I heard this played on the Dr. Demento Show. I hadn't heard it since (though occasionally through the years the tune would go through my head) or even knew who it was by until I accidentally rediscovered it tonight.

Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/31/12 at 7:46 am to
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