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re: Old Timey -- a thread for pre-rock country, folk, and blues

Posted on 4/11/12 at 6:09 am to
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 6:09 am to
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 4/14/12 at 7:20 pm to
Washington Phillips - Paul and Silas in Jail (1927)


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Washington Phillips (January 11, 1880 – September 20, 1954) was a Texan gospel singer and musician.

Phillips recorded eighteen songs, all between 1927 and 1929, though only sixteen survived. Some of his songs amount to highly specific and detailed gospel sermons, featuring Phillips' voice self-accompanied by an instrument that sounds like a fretless zither. This instrument, which has been variously identified as a Dolceola, a Celestaphone, two Celestaphones tuned in octaves attached side-by-side, or a Phonoharp (and also is considered by some to be an instrument entirely home-made by Phillips) creates a unique sound on these recordings that makes them immediately recognizable.
Posted by dexy82
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Posted on 4/14/12 at 10:18 pm to
somebodys arguing about Elvis on the Jimmie Rogers link

quote:

he was an overrated half-arse wife beating piece of shite who watered down rock and roll for white people? and died on the toilet.


This post was edited on 4/14/12 at 10:18 pm
Posted by ornagestorm
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Posted on 4/15/12 at 12:32 am to
[link=(C.C. Rider - Mississippi John Hurt)]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFGuXoorp6k&feature=related&hd=1[/link]
[link=(
Cab Calloway - Minnie The Moocher 1930 )]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB_fbBfP9yU&feature=related&hd=1[/link]

Posted by D Tide
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Posted on 4/15/12 at 1:34 am to
Posted by acgeaux129
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Posted on 4/15/12 at 3:03 am to
bookmarked.

thanks for putting this thread together.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 4/15/12 at 6:07 am to
Linky no worky

Tried to fix them:

C.C. Rider - Mississippi John Hurt

Cab Calloway - Minnie The Moocher 1930


Here's a 1932 Betty Boop cartoon where you can see Cab in action (note the opening where he does a variation on the moonwalk).



Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 4/15/12 at 6:40 am to
quote:

"The Story Of American Folk Music" -- (BBC documentary)


Bumping this since it got buried at the bottom of a page.

I've watched the first 6 segments. This is about the NYC folk scene of the '30s and '40s, featuring contemporary footage of Leadbelly and The Weavers as well as interviews with people like Steve Earle and the inevitable Pete Seeger. It's a very good intro to the subject, again providing you can put up with the political bias.
Posted by ornagestorm
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Posted on 4/15/12 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

Linky no worky

Tried to fix them:

C.C. Rider - Mississippi John Hurt

Cab Calloway - Minnie The Moocher 1930



thanks, not sure why they did not work I will link these.
[link=(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAZhHXsknd8)]Fred Astaire - Puttin' On The Ritz, 1930[/link]
[link=(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29BlsXcx6j4)]Josephine Baker,Blue Skies,1921 [/link]
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 4/22/12 at 1:25 am to
Roy Acuff - Night Train To Memphis (1943 film clip)

This was the rock & roll of the time. It's not hard to hear how this would evolve over a few years into rockabilly.

And yes it's a 1943 clip and outside the time perimeters I originally insisted on -- so I'm cheating again. But then I have always considered myself above petty bourgeois morality.

Posted by chilld28
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Posted on 4/22/12 at 1:47 am to
The Delmore Brothers

Alton Delmore (December 25, 1908 – June 8, 1964) and Rabon Delmore (December 3, 1916 – December 4, 1952), billed as The Delmore Brothers, were country music pioneers and stars of the Grand Ole Opry in the 1930s. The Delmore Brothers, together with other brother duets such as the Louvin Brothers, the Blue Sky Boys, the Monroe Brothers (Birch, Charlie and Bill Monroe), the McGee Brothers, and The Stanley Brothers, had a profound impact on the history of country music and American popular music.

The brothers were born into poverty in Elkmont, Alabama, as the sons of tenant farmers amid a rich tradition of gospel music and Appalachian folk.[1] Their mother, Mollie Delmore, wrote and sang gospel songs for their church. The Delmores blended gospel-style harmonies with the quicker guitar-work of traditional folk music and the blues to help create the still-emerging genre of country. In addition to the regular six-string acoustic guitar, the duo was one of the few to use the rare tenor guitar, a four-string instrument that had primarily been used previously in vaudeville shows.



The Big River Blues
Browns Ferry Blues
Lonesome Yodel Blues

Deep River Blues by Doc Watson

The last one is just because I like that version. Doc has been blind since his childhood and I love to hear him play guitar.

This post was edited on 4/22/12 at 1:50 am
Posted by blueslover
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Posted on 4/22/12 at 2:11 am to
just getting in on this Kafka, good job

I've thought it would be a good radio series to compare many of these original versions to popular remakes that people don't even know are remakes.

What led me into bluesology was realizing where Clapton, Zeppelin, ZZ Top, etc were getting their songs from. Not pre WW2 but even more influential to the advent of modern rock was John Lee Hooker, Muddy Waters, Willie Dixon, etc

Dunno if covered already but Lonnie Johnson (1899-1970 born in Nawlins) is who I would call the father of what we call lead guitar today. Before him guitar was used for virtually only rhythm.

enjoy Lonnie

My other favorite pre WW2 guitarist is T Bone Walker (1910-1975), started in Dallas and became kinda a father to the L.A. Jazz Blues Sound. Perhaps the first great showman as a lead player. Writer of 'Stormy Monday'! T-Bone Blues disc (1959) is in my Top Ten albums of alltime all genres

enjoy T-Bone

Lead Belly- every Louisianian should know this music pioneer 1888-1949. As interesting of a life as his music was influential. On wiki I saw this-
Lead Belly has been covered by Delaney Davidson, Tom Russell, Lonnie Donegan, The Beach Boys, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Elvis Presley,[16] Abba, Pete Seeger, The Weavers, Harry Belafonte, Frank Sinatra, Ram Jam, Johnny Cash, Tom Petty, Dr John, Ry Cooder, Grateful Dead, Gene Autry, Odetta, Billy Childish (who named his son Huddie), Mungo Jerry, Paul King, Led Zeppelin, Van Morrison, Michelle Shocked, Tom Waits, Scott H. Biram, Ron Sexsmith, British Sea Power, Rod Stewart, Ernest Tubb, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, The White Stripes, The Fall, The Doors, Smog, Old Crow Medicine Show, Spiderbait, Meat Loaf, Ministry, Raffi, Rasputina, Rory Gallagher, the Sensational Alex Harvey Band, Deer Tick, Hugh Laurie, X, Bill Frisell, Koerner, Ray & Glover, Nirvana, Mark Lanegan, and WZRD, among many others.

There's a not so easy to find movie of his life ('Leadbelly') made in the mid 70's.

interesting 1935 newsreel of him
one of his best known
some might recognize this
from this
This post was edited on 4/22/12 at 2:35 am
Posted by ornagestorm
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Posted on 4/22/12 at 10:43 am to
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 6/27/12 at 7:47 pm to
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 6/27/12 at 8:50 pm to
Solid thread.

nice resurrection.

Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 6/27/12 at 8:53 pm to
quote:

nice resurrection

there will be more in the days to come
Posted by MaximumTiger
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Posted on 6/27/12 at 10:07 pm to
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 6/27/12 at 10:26 pm to
quote:

Blind Willie Johnson

"John The Revelator"

Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
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Posted on 6/27/12 at 11:06 pm to
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 6/28/12 at 7:10 am to
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