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Fair to say that Saints are free-agent geniuses, but missed some 1st rds?
Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:27 pm
Just considering 1st round picks. Were these guys worthy of a 1st round pick, did they have a great impact on our team?:
2011 Mark Ingram (No, but too early to tell)
2011 Cameron Jordan (No, but too early to tell)
2010 Patrick Robinson (started poorly but came on strong throughout the course of the 2011 season imo.)
2009 Malcolm Jenkins (No, was a liability this year's playoffs)
2008 Sedrick Ellis (No, I never did like this pick)
2007 Robert Meachem (No, always injured and always beat out by lesser-heralded players)
2006 Reggie Bush (No, had some good times but overall a No)
Regarding our free agent decisions:
Brees
Sproles
etc.
/
Free agency is easier and more sure-fire because you've already seen the player in action in the NFL. You basically know what you're getting. However, its just my opinion that we've missed on our 1st round picks.
edit: editted for shitty title. I meant to discuss our 1st round not accuse our beloved saints of being poor drafters.
2011 Mark Ingram (No, but too early to tell)
2011 Cameron Jordan (No, but too early to tell)
2010 Patrick Robinson (started poorly but came on strong throughout the course of the 2011 season imo.)
2009 Malcolm Jenkins (No, was a liability this year's playoffs)
2008 Sedrick Ellis (No, I never did like this pick)
2007 Robert Meachem (No, always injured and always beat out by lesser-heralded players)
2006 Reggie Bush (No, had some good times but overall a No)
Regarding our free agent decisions:
Brees
Sproles
etc.
/
Free agency is easier and more sure-fire because you've already seen the player in action in the NFL. You basically know what you're getting. However, its just my opinion that we've missed on our 1st round picks.
edit: editted for shitty title. I meant to discuss our 1st round not accuse our beloved saints of being poor drafters.
This post was edited on 2/6/12 at 12:59 pm
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Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:28 pm to Hung like Mule
alex brown
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Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:30 pm to Chad504boy
seeing how stupid this is I had do double take to see that chad had not posted it.
Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:31 pm to Chad504boy
quote:Good point. I was somewhat excited about this one but he did not pan out. Didnt even play in 2011 I dont think...
alex brown
Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:32 pm to blackandgoldGOD
quote:What is so stupid? Enlighten us.
seeing how stupid this is I had do double take to see that chad had not posted it.
Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:33 pm to Hung like Mule
quote:
but not great at draft?
quote:
Just considering 1st round picks
Why do only 1st rounders? If you did this to almost every other team in the NFL I bet you it looks similar.
Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:35 pm to Hung like Mule
Viewing success of a draft specifically by the first round is quite STUPID. Especially when the team being evaluated has DRAFTED Colston, Evans, Nicks, Graham...all some of the very best players in the NFL
Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:37 pm to Hung like Mule
quote:
Just considering 1st round picks. Were these guys worthy of a 1st round pick, did they have a great impact on our team?:
2011 Mark Ingram (too early to tell)
2011 Cameron Jordan (Yes)
2010 Patrick Robinson (Yes)
2009 Malcolm Jenkins (The best and most important player on this list, a great safety and a huge reason we won the Superbowl as a CB)
2008 Sedrick Ellis (Hasnt been terrible, has potential, couldve been the scheme or the DC, def overpaid though)
2007 Robert Meachem (Stretches the field, has had some great catches, Redskins game fumble, not a terrible receiver)
2006 Reggie Bush (Absolutely yes. The guy was an incredible punt returner and a huge reason we won the Cardinals game and made it to the Superbowl. We replaced him with Sproles(who is better), but i believe he was worth the pick)
quote:
Regarding our free agent decisions:
Brees
Sproles
You picked arguably the best 2 free agents we ever picked up. Weve made some terrible free agent decisions and as for being terrible at drafting players- Colston, Graham, Nicks, Evans, and a few that you listed, just to name a few
This post was edited on 2/6/12 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:38 pm to NS Who Dat Nation
Laziness.
But if you look at Falcons, I would say their 1st round picks were better: (does not account for draft position though)..
2005 Roddy White
2007 Jamaal Anderson
2008 Ryan, Matt
2008 Sam Baker
2009 Peria Jerry
2010 Sean Wetherspoon
2011 Julio Jones
But if you look at Falcons, I would say their 1st round picks were better: (does not account for draft position though)..
2005 Roddy White
2007 Jamaal Anderson
2008 Ryan, Matt
2008 Sam Baker
2009 Peria Jerry
2010 Sean Wetherspoon
2011 Julio Jones
Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:40 pm to WhoGeaux
quote:This is a message board and the topic is 1st rounders. Why you mad?
Viewing success of a draft specifically by the first round is quite STUPID.
Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:41 pm to Hung like Mule
Better? really?
quote:
2005 Roddy White - hes no colston
2007 Jamaal Anderson - ok
2008 Ryan, Matt - Matty Ice sucks
2008 Sam Baker - who?
2009 Peria Jerry - who?
2010 Sean Wetherspoon - not terrible i guess
2011 Julio Jones -
Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:42 pm to Hung like Mule
quote:
What is so stupid? Enlighten us.
Not mad at all, quite the contrary actually. You asked to be enlightened.
Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:43 pm to Breesus
You really think Colston is better than Roddy White? I respectfully disagree but I love Colston dont get me wrong. And Ryan is solid, he's a douche but he's a solid NFL QB.
Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:43 pm to Hung like Mule
Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:43 pm to Breesus
quote:
2011 Mark Ingram (too early to tell)
Actually he was worth a first round pick, based on over all ranking. That's from some one that doesn't like taking a RB in the first round
Problem with the Ingram pick is the cost to get that pick.
Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:44 pm to WhoGeaux
quote:When I asked for enlightenment, I was hoping you would contribute to the discussion. Calling the topic STUPID seems like u probably mad.
Not mad at all, quite the contrary actually. You asked to be enlightened.
Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:44 pm to Hung like Mule
quote:
Just considering 1st round picks
and you limited it to 1st round picks because our drafts overall are genius
Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:44 pm to Hung like Mule
quote:
You really think Colston is better than Roddy White? I respectfully disagree
quote:- 2 points is all i have to say.
And Ryan is solid, he's a douche but he's a solid NFL QB.
Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:45 pm to Hung like Mule
quote:Topic is not 1st rounders. Topic is..,
This is a message board and the topic is 1st rounders. Why you mad?
quote:You're calling the Saints' FO crappy drafters based on 1st round selections and ignoring the other 6 rounds.
Is it fair to say that Saints are free-agent geniuses, but not great at draft?
Fail
Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:45 pm to Hung like Mule
quote:
Hung like Mule
The draft is about being given the choice of who falls to you sometimes. Matt Ryan fell into the falcons' lap. Same for Reggie with the Saints. A lot of the Saints 1st round picks aren't impressive but when you look at surrounding picks, it's hard to really say decisively "this woulda been a better pick". The real money makers are at the later rounds and all. I get more upset with deals for compensation gained or lost with trades of picks. Also, keying in on the right UDFA is also a crucial piece of the puzzle. Does that credit go to FA or the draft?
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