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Is it ever worth it to kick a FG inside the 5 yard line?
Posted on 1/13/12 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 1/13/12 at 12:30 pm
Barring a game winning FG obviously. I mean in the beginning or middle of still competitive games. So many times I will see a team get stopped on the goal line and then trot out the kicker to try a FG that is shorter than a PAT.
I've always felt like the risk in getting that touchdown is worth so much more than turning it over on downs. At the worst you don't get any points, but the other team is hiking the ball in their own end zone.
I've always felt like the risk in getting that touchdown is worth so much more than turning it over on downs. At the worst you don't get any points, but the other team is hiking the ball in their own end zone.
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 12:31 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Gotta take the points.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 12:35 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
quote:
I've always felt like the risk in getting that touchdown is worth so much more than turning it over on downs. At the worst you don't get any points, but the other team is hiking the ball in their own end zone.
I think you take the points cause its an easy 3. On the other hand i don't think nearly enough teams go for it between 50 and opponents 40
Posted on 1/13/12 at 12:36 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
This is my feeling as well.
Two things can happen:
1) you get the Touchdown. best case senerio, you get 4 extra points and a world of momentum
2) You dont get it. Momentum takes a hit but you basically get an amazing punt inside the 5 with a chance to get a saftey or awesome field position on the next possesion
JMO
Two things can happen:
1) you get the Touchdown. best case senerio, you get 4 extra points and a world of momentum
2) You dont get it. Momentum takes a hit but you basically get an amazing punt inside the 5 with a chance to get a saftey or awesome field position on the next possesion
JMO
Posted on 1/13/12 at 12:58 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Just because the other team would start with their back to their own goal line, assuming you go for it on 4 and goal and are stopped, doesn't mean you're going to get good field position. They could actually put a drive together, it's not unheard of.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 1:04 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Some statistics geeks did an in-depth study about this a few years ago. Their conclusion was that a team should always go for it at the goal line, unless end of game. I'll see if I can find it. I read an article about the study, not the actual study.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 1:10 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
I think it depends on a lot of things
Is the first down marker less than a yard away? Do you have a good short yardage game?
If it looks like a high probability play for you to pick up the first down then I think you should go for it.
Is the first down marker less than a yard away? Do you have a good short yardage game?
If it looks like a high probability play for you to pick up the first down then I think you should go for it.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 1:16 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Coaches are way to conservative in the game of football.
Punt on way to many 4th downs, and when they do go for it they are way to conservative in their play calling.
Think about it like this. YOu drove the ball probably 45 yards averaging probably 7 yards + a play and you don't have faith in your team to get you the last 5. Also if you do turn it over that overly conservative coach on the other side is going to call plays that give you the ball back at the 50.
I guess it is theories like this why I am not a coach.
Punt on way to many 4th downs, and when they do go for it they are way to conservative in their play calling.
Think about it like this. YOu drove the ball probably 45 yards averaging probably 7 yards + a play and you don't have faith in your team to get you the last 5. Also if you do turn it over that overly conservative coach on the other side is going to call plays that give you the ball back at the 50.
I guess it is theories like this why I am not a coach.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 2:44 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
There are many factors to consider.
If the two teams are high scoring offenses with bad defenses then ya gotta go for TDs. Each possession is critical.
If the teams have strong defenses weak offenses then the 3 points becomes bigger.
Also, if the weather is bad. Rain, strong winds, muddy field, then the score is gonna be lower so you take the 3 points.
If the two teams are high scoring offenses with bad defenses then ya gotta go for TDs. Each possession is critical.
If the teams have strong defenses weak offenses then the 3 points becomes bigger.
Also, if the weather is bad. Rain, strong winds, muddy field, then the score is gonna be lower so you take the 3 points.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 2:54 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
About 5 years ago I woulda said go for the TD, but since then I've seen so many games decided by less than 3 points where the losing team went for the 7 instead of taking the points. Gotta take points any way you can get them, especially in the NFL. College teams can score way more easily so I wouldn't mind seeing more teams go for 7
Posted on 1/13/12 at 3:34 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Would you go for 2pts everytime as well? Twice as many points as kicking the XP & you are at the 2 yard line.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 9:16 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Statistically, you should always go for it on fourth and five or less. Therefore, no it is not worth it to kick a field goal. Of course, these are decisions, while statistically more logical may result in a coach getting fired, so they do not have the balls to always to go for it.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 11:39 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
It all depends on so many obvious things.
As the field shrinks - getting it in seems to be more difficult with athletic defenses.
Take the points:
If your OC is unimaginative or "old school."
If your offense is struggling.
If you're Penn State.
Go for it:
If your defense sucks.
If your O is awesome.
If you're Boise State.
As the field shrinks - getting it in seems to be more difficult with athletic defenses.
Take the points:
If your OC is unimaginative or "old school."
If your offense is struggling.
If you're Penn State.
Go for it:
If your defense sucks.
If your O is awesome.
If you're Boise State.
This post was edited on 1/13/12 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 1/14/12 at 10:30 am to Brettesaurus Rex
quote:
Barring a game winning FG obviously. I mean in the beginning or middle of still competitive games. So many times I will see a team get stopped on the goal line and then trot out the kicker to try a FG that is shorter than a PAT.
I've always felt like the risk in getting that touchdown is worth so much more than turning it over on downs. At the worst you don't get any points, but the other team is hiking the ball in their own end zone.
#1 There is a huge difference between 4th and goal from the 1 and 4th and goal from the 3 yard line.
#2 The current situation makes a huge difference. Will a FG put you up two scores? Does it give you the lead? Does it only put you up 6 where you can still be beat by a TD?
#3 Your opponent makes a big difference. Are you playing against Drew Brees where you feel like you need to score more, or Alex Smith?
#4 What kind of defense do you have. Are you the Ravens who can smother a team with a lead? Or, is it likely that you need to score more points to win.
In short, there is no single rule. The right decision is always based on the situation.
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