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re: If Les wanted a true dual threat QB, why not Shep?
Posted on 1/13/12 at 7:12 am to Frankie Knuckles
Posted on 1/13/12 at 7:12 am to Frankie Knuckles
Shep is not a dual threat, as bad as JJ was at throwing the ball Shep was way worse.
This thread = fail
This thread = fail
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 7:14 am to geauxzone1
Wow you're stupid if you really think that.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 7:14 am to geauxzone1
quote:When did you see him throw the ball?
Shep is not a dual threat, as bad as JJ was at throwing the ball Shep was way worse.
And also, have you watched JJ throw the ball the last 4 years?
Posted on 1/13/12 at 8:40 am to geauxzone1
quote:
Shep is not a dual threat, as bad as JJ was at throwing the ball Shep was way worse.
This thread = fail
How do you know this?
Posted on 1/13/12 at 8:44 am to geauxzone1
quote:I know it's not the same, but RSs HS highlights had him making some insane passes.
Posted by geauxzone1
Shep is not a dual threat, as bad as JJ was at throwing the ball Shep was way worse.
This thread = fail
Posted on 1/13/12 at 8:45 am to geauxzone1
quote:
Shep is not a dual threat, as bad as JJ was at throwing the ball Shep was way worse.
edit:
ok nevermind I see this has been hammered (and answered) alreadyThis post was edited on 1/13/12 at 8:47 am
Posted on 1/13/12 at 9:00 am to geauxzone1
quote:
Shep is not a dual threat, as bad as JJ was at throwing the ball Shep was way worse.
This thread = fail
This is an impossibility. Had Shep been coached up to be a QB from the moment he stepped on campus he would have been the starter.
Here's a simple truth people fail to accept: A person can LEARN to pass better over time. See: any quarter back with a long career.
The issue was JJ was NOT getting better, in fact, worse and Shepard saw this and began thinking "I am already better than this guy and I care"
Eventual result: Shepard leaves
This post was edited on 1/13/12 at 9:01 am
Posted on 1/13/12 at 9:03 am to geauxzone1
quote:
Shep is not a dual threat, as bad as JJ was at throwing the ball Shep was way worse.
This thread = fail
Never saw live throws by RS, but during RS's recruiting Tom Lunginbill had this to say about comparisons on Dual Threat QB's Terelle Pryor and RS. Note: Pryor was a year ahead of RS coming out of HS. Pryor was ranked 4th (2008) and Shepard ranked 1st (2009). May just prove the sad truth about ESPN recruiting analysis which we all know to be inferior. Not to mention throwing is not Pryor's strength.
T Pryor vs R Shepard
"Shepard, on the other hand, has a smooth, compact throwing motion. His ball-carriage mechanics are very consistent -- the ball pops out quickly. The higher the release, the better for Shepard; he is not blessed with terrific height."
"Shepard is simply more disciplined at this stage. He is less of an improviser in the passing game than Pryor was and shows more precision, patience and timing, which allows him to hit the strike zone more often than not. This is an area where Shepard can close the gap in arm strength."
But we never saw any of this.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 9:16 am to geauxzone1
quote:How would you know that? When did he get a real chance to throw anything beyond token tries in his entire LSU career?
Shep is not a dual threat, as bad as JJ was at throwing the ball Shep was way worse.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 9:30 am to geauxzone1
quote:
Shep is not a dual threat, as bad as JJ was at throwing the ball Shep was way worse.
Will need more info on how you would know this. I have heard for three years a trainer that Shep (who would "play around" before or after practice with a couple of receivers and looked pretty good) could throw. He did not have the arm strength of Jefferson but still should of gotten a look.
Me thinks you don't have any real reason for saying he was bad but rather like to sound off on subjects that you don't know anything about.
This post was edited on 1/13/12 at 9:32 am
Posted on 1/13/12 at 9:34 am to geauxzone1
quote:
Shep is not a dual threat, as bad as JJ was at throwing the ball Shep was way worse.
Exactly. "Dual threat" implies TWO threats.
The last "dual threat" QB we had on this team was Matt Flynn and hell, he was dinged his SR year so part of his "dual" was kind of lacking.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 10:15 am to geauxzone1
quote:
as bad as JJ was at throwing the ball Shep was way worse.
dude we have cheerleaders that can throw the ball better than jj did, if you realy belive that shep was worse than jj is the reason for him not playing, you need your meds
Posted on 1/16/12 at 11:58 am to geauxzone1
quote:
as bad as JJ was at throwing the ball Shep was way worse.
Was never proven, this is a Rant myth that has been repeated over and over again until it became truth. Maybe he wasn't a pure passer, but we certainly don't know that based on a body of evidence or any coaches words that were uttered in the media.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:07 pm to geauxzone1
Guess those HS films are pure fantasy.
Shep could put the ball downfield and is by far a better running QB than JJ.
Not sure anybody could do worse than JJ at QB with his 5 yard passes and deer in the headlights freaking after 4 years of starting games.
Done and over. MILES fricked up and cost us a BCSNC.
Shep could put the ball downfield and is by far a better running QB than JJ.
Not sure anybody could do worse than JJ at QB with his 5 yard passes and deer in the headlights freaking after 4 years of starting games.
Done and over. MILES fricked up and cost us a BCSNC.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 1:27 pm to geauxzone1
quote:
Shep is not a dual threat, as bad as JJ was at throwing the ball Shep was way worse.
This thread = fail
Right. All those talent evaluators across the country that thought RS was the top (not just elite, not top 25...the best) dual threat QUARTERBACK coming out of high school were just misinformed. They must not have watched any film of RS when he was a high schooler throwing the ball. If he wasn't, at least, an average passer, they would have listed him as an athlete, or WR, or anything other than QB. Hell, half of the skill position players in college played QB in high school. The sentiment furthered by Miles apologists that RS was never a viable option at QB is just lunacy. If Andrew Luck was our QB, this position is slightly more credible, but we had JJ and JL. JJ and JL.
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