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Football rules that make no sense
Posted on 12/21/11 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 12/21/11 at 10:32 pm
1. Fumbling forward and out of the end zone is a touchback and the other team is awarded possession. WFT? Why such a big penalty to the offensive team? Shouldn't the offense just get it at the 1 yard line?
2. Kickoffs that go out of bounds result in the receiving team getting it on the 40, but no penalty for punts. Both are a change of possession through a kick, why the different treatment?
3. Defensive holding resulting in an automatic first down is ridiculous. In the SF/Pitt game the other day, one of the teams was facing like 3rd and 30 and the defense got called for a defensive hold 10 yards from the LOS..5 yard penalty and automatic first down? WTF?
2. Kickoffs that go out of bounds result in the receiving team getting it on the 40, but no penalty for punts. Both are a change of possession through a kick, why the different treatment?
3. Defensive holding resulting in an automatic first down is ridiculous. In the SF/Pitt game the other day, one of the teams was facing like 3rd and 30 and the defense got called for a defensive hold 10 yards from the LOS..5 yard penalty and automatic first down? WTF?
This post was edited on 12/21/11 at 10:33 pm
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Posted on 12/21/11 at 10:33 pm to Big L
Not sure if serious...
Posted on 12/21/11 at 10:35 pm to Big L
4. The recovering team not being able to advance the ball forward on a muffed punt.
Posted on 12/21/11 at 10:35 pm to Big L
i disagree with your assessment
Posted on 12/21/11 at 10:35 pm to Big L
All of those rules make sense
Posted on 12/21/11 at 10:36 pm to Big L
I agree with you on number 1.
Number 2 is absolutely ridiculous and one of the worst arguments I've ever heard.
Number 3 I just disagree with.
Number 2 is absolutely ridiculous and one of the worst arguments I've ever heard.
Number 3 I just disagree with.
Posted on 12/21/11 at 10:36 pm to Big L
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2. Kickoffs that go out of bounds result in the receiving team getting it on the 40, but no penalty for punts. Both are a change of possession through a kick, why the different treatment?
Posted on 12/21/11 at 10:40 pm to Big L
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1. Fumbling forward and out of the end zone is a touchback and the other team is awarded possession. WFT? Why such a big penalty to the offensive team? Shouldn't the offense just get it at the 1 yard line?
where would you put the football? where the fumble occurred?
I really don't mind the rule, if you can't hold on to the ball around the end zone you don't deserve a TD. It would be unfair to award a person a TD if he fumbled the ball out of the end zone.
if you give a good alternate I could agree with you.
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2. Kickoffs that go out of bounds result in the receiving team getting it on the 40, but no penalty for punts. Both are a change of possession through a kick, why the different treatment?
this rule makes perfect sense, all a kicker have to do is get good at kicking it out at the 1 yard line on each kickoff and it would change the game completely.
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3. Defensive holding resulting in an automatic first down is ridiculous. In the SF/Pitt game the other day, one of the teams was facing like 3rd and 30 and the defense got called for a defensive hold 10 yards from the LOS..5 yard penalty and automatic first down? WTF?
its a good rule IMO, what about personal fouls on a 3rd and 40 would that be just as bad.
there some things you as a player have to learn not to do, and holding a receiver on 3rd and long is of them
This post was edited on 12/21/11 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 12/21/11 at 10:46 pm to Big L
I've always been bothered by the CFB rule that you're down even thou no one's touched you. It drives me nuts when I see a diving Int but the player can't get back up and keep running.
Posted on 12/21/11 at 11:11 pm to Big L
Illegal man downfield? why when the ball is snapped they should be able to go where the wish. OL going down field should give advantage to the D, rushing the passer
Posted on 12/21/11 at 11:33 pm to Big L
I have always disliked automatic first downs for 5 yard ticky-tack penalties. Monday it was 2nd and 25 for the Steelers and SF was flagged for a 5 yard penalty "hands to the face" and they march off 5 yards and suddenly it's 1st down. Should be repeat the down and make it 2nd and 20 in that situation.
Basically in that situation, what I'm saying is...one 5 yard penalty by the defense shouldn't wipe out two penalties (a personal foul penalty and a holding penalty) by the offense.
Basically in that situation, what I'm saying is...one 5 yard penalty by the defense shouldn't wipe out two penalties (a personal foul penalty and a holding penalty) by the offense.
This post was edited on 12/21/11 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 12/21/11 at 11:57 pm to Big L
The NFL defense can't score on the XP attempt.
The offense can score 1 or 2 points, but for some screwed up reason this is the only play in which the defensive players cant score. Every other play in the game, all 22 players have the opportunity to score, but on this play 11 can't. Go with the college rules.
The offense can score 1 or 2 points, but for some screwed up reason this is the only play in which the defensive players cant score. Every other play in the game, all 22 players have the opportunity to score, but on this play 11 can't. Go with the college rules.
Posted on 12/22/11 at 7:06 am to Big L
Free kick off of a fair catch.
Posted on 12/22/11 at 7:38 am to Big L
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Football rules that make no sense
Excessive Celebration.
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Posted on 12/22/11 at 7:56 am to Big L
1. I sort of agree. But, what's to stop someone who is short and won't get in the endzone from purposely fumbling into the endzone out of bounds to get another chance and set of downs from the 1? Thus, I like the rule as is.
2. Teams would never kick to returners. They would just try to kick it out of bounds inside the 10.
3. Not necessarily. You don't know if the guy could've picked up those yards. What if you have a burner on the outside who beats a bump-n-run coverage and there's no safety deep? Then they grab adn hold him and he would've easily been open for a TD.
2. Teams would never kick to returners. They would just try to kick it out of bounds inside the 10.
3. Not necessarily. You don't know if the guy could've picked up those yards. What if you have a burner on the outside who beats a bump-n-run coverage and there's no safety deep? Then they grab adn hold him and he would've easily been open for a TD.
Posted on 12/22/11 at 8:04 am to Big L
Some aspects of the illegal touching rule.
It has a purpose and should still be there. I don't like the fact that as soon as ANY player touches it, it's dead regardless of the outcome. For instance, there was a cowboys game in which the WR made a great play on the ball, came down with the ball in bounds. He did all the things he was supposed to do. However the DB was also trying to make a play on it and had a foot out of bounds while trying to knock the ball out of the hands of the WR. Result: no TD . I think that's kind of bs.
On the flip side, it does serve a purpose. I.e. if the DB had ended up making the int, it shouldn't count . Or in fumble scenarios it's important to rule it dead to prevent players from just tapping back in play and such.
It has a purpose and should still be there. I don't like the fact that as soon as ANY player touches it, it's dead regardless of the outcome. For instance, there was a cowboys game in which the WR made a great play on the ball, came down with the ball in bounds. He did all the things he was supposed to do. However the DB was also trying to make a play on it and had a foot out of bounds while trying to knock the ball out of the hands of the WR. Result: no TD . I think that's kind of bs.
On the flip side, it does serve a purpose. I.e. if the DB had ended up making the int, it shouldn't count . Or in fumble scenarios it's important to rule it dead to prevent players from just tapping back in play and such.
Posted on 12/22/11 at 8:22 am to Big L
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2. Kickoffs that go out of bounds result in the receiving team getting it on the 40, but no penalty for punts. Both are a change of possession through a kick, why the different treatment?
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1. Fumbling forward and out of the end zone is a touchback and the other team is awarded possession. WFT? Why such a big penalty to the offensive team? Shouldn't the offense just get it at the 1 yard line?
Stops players from "accidentally"(intentionally) fumbling it forward from the 8 yard line out of the endzone.
I disagree with it being not allowed to return a blocked extra point for 2 points to the other end. Why not have that rule? There is no reason...
Posted on 12/22/11 at 11:33 am to Big L
Intentional Grounding - there really is no penalty for attempting it, it is the same result as getting sacked at that spot, you still "lose the down" anyway so why not try it.. should be 10 yds back from the spot of the foul & loss of down.
Posted on 12/22/11 at 2:28 pm to Big L
quote:This one makes no sense. Fumble the ball out of bounds anywhere else on the field and your team retains possession, but happen to be good enough to get to the goal line before you fumble and the other team gets the ball. Should be returned to the spot of the fumble or offensive team retains possession from the point where PAT attempts are spotted.
1. Fumbling forward and out of the end zone is a touchback and the other team is awarded possession. WFT? Why such a big penalty to the offensive team? Shouldn't the offense just get it at the 1 yard line?
Posted on 12/22/11 at 2:41 pm to Big L
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1. Fumbling forward and out of the end zone is a touchback and the other team is awarded possession. WFT? Why such a big penalty to the offensive team? Shouldn't the offense just get it at the 1 yard line?
I agree a very harsh penalty indeed. Instead of the 1, maybe punish them with a 15 yard penalty but let the offense keep the ball.
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