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re: Debunking Alabama's 12 national titles...

Posted on 12/16/11 at 8:39 pm to
Posted by Dobermann
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Posted on 12/16/11 at 8:39 pm to
any claimed title pre 1936 is not legit IMO.
AP UPI BCS (and FWAA for Ole Miss and Hog fans)

Bama has 8 legit titles
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/16/11 at 8:51 pm to
I think pre-1936 title claims are legit--they are just "mythical national championships." The term MNC does not make sense for any title claim after 1935. They are disputed, but not mythical.
Posted by bama1989
Decatur, AL
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/16/11 at 9:10 pm to
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Posted by bama1989
Decatur, AL
Member since Dec 2011
122 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

any claimed title pre 1936 is not legit IMO.


Bama was undefeated and won the Southern Conference and then the Rose bowl in 1925. Its as legit a statement for the best team in CFB as any today. We did the same thing in 26' but tied Stanford in the Rose bowl that year. Split Championship. Won it all in 30' and 34'. No one has an argument that we weren't the best team in any of those years. And you should appreciate the historical significance of it. These teams put southern football on the map. Before that no one respected the Southern conference.
Posted by attheua
Tuscaloosa
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 12/17/11 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

any claimed title pre 1936 is not legit IMO.
AP UPI BCS (and FWAA for Ole Miss and Hog fans)

Bama has 8 legit titles


This seems to be where most blue-blood programs split on title claims. Alabama, USC, Michigan, ND, etc all have undefeated Rose Bowl champion teams from the pre-poll era, and all claim titles for those years. OU, Nebraska, OSU, and others (LSU) who didn't really get started until after the poll era began tend to scorn titles from the pre-poll era. It's just a matter of perspective, I think. And really not worth the constant debate, because all NC claims are disputable and the very idea of a 'national' champion when you only play 12-14 other teams is about as laughable as the MLB champs being called 'world' champions.

Pre-poll claims were superseded by the polls, the poll titles were superseded by the BCS, and one day hopefully the BCS will be superseded by a playoff. I'm just proud that Bama has been and will be relevant and successful in all the major eras.
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