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re: Unglesby to ask Les to lift JJ's suspension (with link)

Posted on 8/30/11 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
48709 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 4:49 pm to
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Only if it's established that he ever said it in the first place.


Or that he claims that fight started before he intervened.

You put his statement up that he just came across people getting pulled from trucks and then show the video of him getting tossed, and add the testimony from employees that he both threw a punch in the bar and that the fight outside had already started when the truck pulled up, and you'll convince most juries that the guy is lying.
Posted by Elcid96
Member since May 2010
5465 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 4:50 pm to
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His lawyer has stated this multiple times.


Does't matter..his lawyer can claim anything he wants and can paint his client as a Saint.

However if Lowery said this to the cops and he lied, yes he is screwed.

His attorney can tell the public whatever he wants
Posted by JohnLSU
Death Valley, LA
Member since Aug 2007
7917 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 4:52 pm to
JJ made his choice, broke curfew, got himself in trouble. Hope everything goes well with the court for the kid but as far as joining the team, HELL NO!
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34710 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 4:53 pm to
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Having to deal with them will reinforce this.



No doubt. I had to call in some favors with a LSP friend to find a drunk driver that had hit me. The license plate was EVG ### and when I tried to spell it phonetically, the worthless cop basically told me to shut up, then "I got it!" Turns out, shitwad had written down EBG, just like I suspected. So I had to call the BRPD the next day and tell them where the hit and run driver lived. BRPD at its finest.
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 4:54 pm
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35094 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 4:53 pm to
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Only if it's established that he ever said it in the first place.


His lawyer is currently his spokesperson. While not illegal, it hurts your (victim and lawyer) credibility in the eyes of the public when you lie. Don't forget who will be sitting on the grand jury.
Posted by Ala Tide
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2009
3108 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 4:54 pm to
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However if Lowery said this to the cops and he lied, yes he is screwed.

one of my friends has class with lowery, and he openly admitted he was shitfaced that night. he wouldn't say anything else though because his lawyer told him to keep his mouth shut. apparently he could face charges. i know, :csb:
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35094 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 4:54 pm to
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His attorney can tell the public whatever he wants


Not if he plans on winning the case.
Posted by LSUfan007700
Democratic Party
Member since Sep 2007
2528 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 4:54 pm to
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JJ made his choice, broke curfew, got himself in trouble. Hope everything goes well with the court for the kid but as far as joining the team, HELL NO!
So clearly you don't want whats best for the kid then. Kick off a 4 year senior qb for his first offense when he is innocent till proven guilty yea your fair and balanced.
Posted by Elcid96
Member since May 2010
5465 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 4:55 pm to
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His attorney made that statement


And as a "fricking Attorney" as you stated prior, you know that his attorney can say anything he wants to the public.

So with that being said.

The videotape that was in Shadys' doesn't do anything to hurt this witnesses credibilty if it just showed him in the bar.

Now if he told the cops he was an innocent bystandered that never went inside etc..he will have problems.

The keys to this case are being held with the statements made by the other 3 "Victims". The statements that nobody has seen yet.

This case is a lose, lose all the way around. However if all is true about Lowery...I really feel no sympathy for someone looking for a fight and getting his wish.
Posted by Elcid96
Member since May 2010
5465 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 4:56 pm to
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Not if he plans on winning the case


He plans on winning a civil case, he is a civil attorney.

Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35094 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 4:58 pm to
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He plans on winning a civil case, he is a civil attorney.


To be more specific he is a real estate lawyer. And not a very good one at that.
Posted by Elcid96
Member since May 2010
5465 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 5:00 pm to
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To be more specific he is a real estate lawyer. And not a very good one at that.


May be he is a better civil attorney
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 5:02 pm to
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but as far as joining the team, HELL NO!
I don't even have an opinion on that.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35094 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 5:05 pm to
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May be he is a better civil attorney


He's not. He doesn't try that many civil cases. It's usually only for friends or when he sees a big payday.
Posted by LSUfan007700
Democratic Party
Member since Sep 2007
2528 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 5:05 pm to
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I don't even have an opinion on that.
I hope that means you have some semblance of the rights you and your fellow marines are fighting for. I wish i could say the same about most of the marines who have rushed to judgement.
Posted by Elcid96
Member since May 2010
5465 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 5:07 pm to
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It's usually only for friends or when he sees a big payday


I think you just about described most civil attorneys!!!!!
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35094 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 5:11 pm to
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I think you just about described most civil attorneys!!!!!


Touche`. I'm pretty confident that Unglesby will destroy Bienville (criminal or civil), it just sucks that Bienville will try to drag this out as long as possible.
Posted by Elcid96
Member since May 2010
5465 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 5:14 pm to
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Touche`. I'm pretty confident that Unglesby will destroy Bienville (criminal or civil), it just sucks that Bienville will try to drag this out as long as possible.


Can't see Unglesby getting dragged into Civil suit...IE Not Jefferson.

Shadys proll will get hit...we can argue back and forth..but lawyers aren't scared to swing at an Insurance Company just for the sake of swinging.

I don't want this dragged out at all...like I said above, this is a Lose..Lose all the way around.

Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
4404 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 5:23 pm to
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Argue the semantics all you want. You and I both know that by "3rd party witness," the spokesman was speaking of unbiased witnesses. That would be: not an active participant or his girlfriend.


You mean that would be: not an active participant or his girlfriend (assumed ) or another unnamed witness or the members of the crowd.

Did you even read the report or do you just like to conjecture?
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
4404 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 5:30 pm to
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You place them in a catch-22.


No I don't. They could go to the police and give their statement. They didn't.

quote:

Their story does not contradict itself.


Really why not? The guy states he got up on the back of a truck to get a better view of the fight. He then states he saw the beginning of the fight and Lowery threw the first punch definitely. How can you see the beginning of a fight you got up on a truck to be able to see?

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If that were true, it places Lowery in the bar which he claimed he never went. It's a pretty significant knock on his credibility.

But let's just get your honest opinion. Do you think the employees are lying and they were really interviewed by the police in this case?


Lowery never made that claim.

My honest opinion is that the employees seem dishonest. If you listen to JJ's lawyer he actually doesn't deny the attack or anything Lowery says. He claims JJ was not the one who caused the injuries and the injuries do not warrant 2nd degree. So why people keep trying to contest Lowery's statement when even JJ's lawyer doesn't I'm not sure.
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