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Superstars in MLB
Posted on 4/14/11 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 4/14/11 at 10:36 pm
They are currently arguing on MLB network if Troy Tulowitzki is a superstar in the league. Kevin Millar says he isnt because he does have 110+ RBI's like Ryan Howard, Alex Rodriguez, Miguel Cabrera, and Albert Pujols. Do you guys consider Tulowitzki a superstar in MLB? And does someone have to drive in 110+ RBI's to be a superstar?
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Posted on 4/14/11 at 10:38 pm to gatorhater211
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Do you guys consider Tulowitzki a superstar in MLB? And does someone have to drive in 110+ RBI's to be a superstar?
He's verging superstardom.
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And does someone have to drive in 110+ RBI's to be a superstar?
No. You can't control who gets on base when you come up to the plate.
Posted on 4/14/11 at 10:42 pm to OBUDan
I definitely consider him a star at his position. I dont think he has the recognition from the casual baseball fan to consider him a superstar, but i can see him easily becoming one of the most recognized names in sports. He is one talented baseball player
Posted on 4/14/11 at 10:44 pm to gatorhater211
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Do you guys consider Tulowitzki a superstar in MLB?
he is definitely one of the league's best players. certainly better than ARod and Ryan Howard at this point i would say.
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And does someone have to drive in 110+ RBI's to be a superstar?
no. that is a dumb argument imo.
Posted on 4/14/11 at 10:46 pm to gatorhater211
On the field he is def a superstar. But he probly doesnt have the perception of a superstar because he plays in Colorado.
I don't see how anyone can say Ryan Howard is a superstar and Tulo isn't. On the field Tulo > Howard and it really isn't even close.
I don't see how anyone can say Ryan Howard is a superstar and Tulo isn't. On the field Tulo > Howard and it really isn't even close.
Posted on 4/14/11 at 10:50 pm to gatorhater211
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I dont think he has the recognition from the casual baseball fan to consider him a superstar,
Right. That's the only thing holding him back.
His performance at the end of last year boosted his rep.... continuing it so far this year is propelling him into real superstardom (being a household name to even common fans is how I would define that).
Posted on 4/14/11 at 11:00 pm to gatorhater211
Absolutely, TT is a superstar. Unreal size and power to all fields for a guy playing SS, has "it factor" and is a team leader..a downright freak.
Such a huge edge for teams that have that much production from the SS slot. Like back when ARod was in Seattle, playing SS, along with Edgar Martinez at 3rd, Buhner, Griffey Jr, Olerud. Now as a Yank, plays 3rd, along with Jeter..major production from SS.
Ripken, Jeter, etc..make for such dangerous teams when you get that much pop from shortstop.
It's why the Phils were the most potent lineup a few years back, when JRoll was still in his prime, hitting well, and with power.
Such a huge edge for teams that have that much production from the SS slot. Like back when ARod was in Seattle, playing SS, along with Edgar Martinez at 3rd, Buhner, Griffey Jr, Olerud. Now as a Yank, plays 3rd, along with Jeter..major production from SS.
Ripken, Jeter, etc..make for such dangerous teams when you get that much pop from shortstop.
It's why the Phils were the most potent lineup a few years back, when JRoll was still in his prime, hitting well, and with power.
This post was edited on 4/14/11 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 4/14/11 at 11:07 pm to gatorhater211
Kevin Millar is an idiot for saying the main reason why Tulowitzki isn't as good as Pujols, Rodriguez or Cabrera is because he doesn't drive in an as many runs as them. RBIs is the most overrated offensive stat in baseball. If anything, he should have brought up the Coors Field advantage that Tulowitzki has. He has a .926 career OPS at home, .804 on the road.
Posted on 4/14/11 at 11:18 pm to gatorhater211
There is no way he is a superstar but he is still young.
Posted on 4/14/11 at 11:27 pm to lsu480
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There is no way he is a superstar but he is still young.
how is the best SS in baseball not a superstar?
Posted on 4/14/11 at 11:31 pm to Lester Earl
Because he hardly plays. He also hardly hits any bombs and plays in Colorado. He is not a superstar.
Posted on 4/14/11 at 11:36 pm to lsu480
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He also hardly hits any bombs
??
He's leading the majors with 7. Has 4 in his last 4 games...
Posted on 4/14/11 at 11:39 pm to lsu480
He has hit 21 home runs in his last 37 games dating back to last year?
Tulo is a legit superstar.
So is Howard; he is one of the premier black players in the league, which grants him superstar status. Plus he seems like a nice guy and is a good community dude as well.
Tulo is a legit superstar.
So is Howard; he is one of the premier black players in the league, which grants him superstar status. Plus he seems like a nice guy and is a good community dude as well.
Posted on 4/14/11 at 11:39 pm to lsu480
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Because he hardly plays. He also hardly hits any bombs and plays in Colorado. He is not a superstar.
i dont get any of the "hardly" stuff
Posted on 4/14/11 at 11:41 pm to OBUDan
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He's leading the majors with 7. Has 4 in his last 4 games...
He has had a good 2 weeks...big deal.....everyone does that. He has had one season with 30 bombs and plays in Colorado. He also needs to start playing full seasons if he wants to be a superstar.
Posted on 4/14/11 at 11:43 pm to Lester Earl
He has played 2 full seasons, the rest he has played 75% of games or less. He has only hit 25 bombs twice, .300 once, and never had 100 RBIs. He is not a superstar. He has had a good 2 weeks this year and a few good weeks last year. Big fricking deal.
Posted on 4/14/11 at 11:43 pm to lsu480
He's hit 53 in COL and 44 away from there
Posted on 4/14/11 at 11:44 pm to lsu480
are there any superstar SS's?
Posted on 4/14/11 at 11:47 pm to gatorhater211
Not yet, but he's really close. A guy can become a superstar in less than a year.
Posted on 4/14/11 at 11:50 pm to GynoSandberg
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So is Howard; he is one of the premier black players in the league, which grants him superstar status. Plus he seems like a nice guy and is a good community dude as well.
You shouldn't even mention his name anywhere near Ryan Howards. Howard won the ROY, MVP, got 2 and 3 in MVP, he led the league in HRs twice. He has hit 58, 48, 47 and 45 jacks in different years. He has hit over 140 RBIs 3 times and had 136 another year.
This post was edited on 4/15/11 at 12:11 am
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