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Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 1/18/11 at 3:45 pm to
Yes the defense has run 3-4 sets since Gregg Williams arrival but its only been used in certain games & only for 5-6 plays. Our base defense is 4-3 & if you think anything differently you are a fool.

Williams ran some 3-4 & plenty of 3-3-5 against the Colts out of necessity. Williams knew he had to show Peyton Manning something different on almost every play or he would have scortched us.

The reason we were able to trade for Vilma was the fact that we run a 4-3. When the Jets decided to which to a 3-4, Vilma wanted no part of it & demanded a trade. Vilma's a team guy, so he has bought into playing in the 3-4 for the few plays that he is asked. If it was our base defense, Vilma would be looking to get out of town.

Another reason we don't consistantly use the 3-4 is due to the fact we don't have the personnel to use it more then the occasional 5-6 plays a game. If you want to see what happens to a defense when they play a 3-4 & it doesn't match their personnel, all you have to do is look at this year's Washington Redskins. They were terrible on defense. They switched to a 3-4 with 4-3 personnel & got run through in the process.

ChadBoy I know we disagreed in that Sedrick Ellis thread but I got your back here because your spot on here. P Bean you need to step your football knowledge up. In your attempt to flame, you are showing that you are lacking in that department. It would make NO sense to draft a player who doesn't fit our scheme. What is Miller going to do, sit the bench until games come up that Williams decides to mix a few 3-4 packages in his game plan? No, our base is 4-3 & we'll draft & sign players in the front 7 who fit that scheme. We won't draft players for occasional packages especially in the first round.
Posted by P bean
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Posted on 1/18/11 at 3:53 pm to
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Yes the defense has run 3-4 sets since Gregg Williams arrival but its only been used in certain games & only for 5-6 plays. Our base defense is 4-3 & if you think anything differently you are a fool.


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We have run a 3-4 over a 4-3 for entire games previous not just 5-6 plays

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ChadBoy I know we disagreed in that Sedrick Ellis thread but I got your back here because your spot on here. P Bean you need to step your football knowledge up. In your attempt to flame, you are showing that you are lacking in that department. It would make NO sense to draft a player who doesn't fit our scheme. What is Miller going to do, sit the bench until games come up that Williams decides to mix a few 3-4 packages in his game plan? No, our base is 4-3 & we'll draft & sign players in the front 7 who fit that scheme. We won't draft players for occasional packages especially in the first round.


Chadboy is hung up b/c I said we played it for an entire game, but obviously I did not mean on passing downs as well...Thats why I said Im not trying to argue semantics, of course if they go 5 wide were not going to leave 4 db's in the game and leave a LB with a WR, why do I even have to say that its obvious enough
Also, if we draft a guy who helps our 3-4 package excell, we may see it more often, GW loves the 3-4 and has run it with other teams he coached as primarily 3-4 defenses as opposed to his primarily 4-3 defenses here at New Orleans....
GW is an innovative coach and runs all sorts of variations of the 3-4 and 4-3 as well, all throughout his career

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Our base defense is 4-3 & if you think anything differently you are a fool.


Naw really? of course it is dude.

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What is Miller going to do, sit the bench until games come up that Williams decides to mix a few 3-4 packages in his game plan


Why would we do that? If we take a 1st round LB I think the plan is to start him and play him in any package we feel like, not just play him when we go with the 3-4 defense
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