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re: Hill incident videotaped?

Posted on 1/14/11 at 6:43 am to
Posted by That LSU Guy
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Member since Jul 2008
11467 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 6:43 am to
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Your a dumb arse.
YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47812 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 6:56 am to
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YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE
Ever think of switching to de-caf?
Posted by Abadeebadaba
LSU fan @ FSU
Member since Sep 2010
4983 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 7:07 am to
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That LSU Guy
Sorry I was typing on my iPhone and it messes up my typing sometime. On the other hand I am glad I could make your day mr. English major. I hope you gain a lot of self confidence from correcting grammar online. I am glad I could make your day.
Posted by Ancientiger
WADE, MS
Member since Feb 2006
1214 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 7:24 am to
This whole deal has nothing to do with what any poster thinks should happen or with what happens(ed) all the time at my school. It has everything to do with THE LAW, and what is and isn't legally or morally acceptable. Just because something illegal (e.g., using cocaine) occurs on a widespread basis in our society doesn't make it OK, either legally or morally.
Posted by kevg33
Alexandria
Member since Nov 2004
3247 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 8:08 am to
Just not smart, if he waited just a few months he could have had LSU cleat chasers offering to do the same thing with no legal penalty.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424110 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 8:35 am to
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Some of the opinions in this thread show why this society is in the tailspin its in

THANK YOU for being the 2nd person to indirectly answer my question

bow

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but its a clear cut crime

no person disagrees with this

this thread is more about discussing the fact that this is such a serious crime

i have to look it up, but i think the penalties are along the same lines as killing somebody while drunk driving, and when you kill somebody while driving drunk, you dont' have to register with a scarlet letter for the rest of your life
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8803 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 8:41 am to
My old kicking coach was 23 and a college graduate. He banged a 15 year old freshman cheerleader, totally consentual, but her parents found out, informed the school and he went to jail for 60 days for statutory.

It sucked for him, he had just been asked to come try out for the Patriots for the second time. Needless to say that never happened.
Posted by ECOTIGER
westbank for life
Member since Dec 2007
2854 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 8:41 am to
I received a text message last night from a buddy... this is what he said:

"Jeremy and his friend had a bet going on who could get with her first. His friend supposebly won but Jeremy still completed the bet. They all bragged about it but when her parents and the school found out she said she did it to the friend but Jeremy forced her. So now they are both screwed."

If true this is crazy.
This post was edited on 1/14/11 at 8:43 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424110 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 8:43 am to
honestly, if the police/DAs truly thought hill forced her, he'd be charged with rape rape too

the DAs will overcharge any criminal offense if they have a minutia of evidence to link it, to force a plea
Posted by Bernie Moore
Member since May 2010
1859 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 8:46 am to
erson disagrees with this

this thread is more about discussing the fact that this is such a serious crime

i have to look it up, but i think the penalties are along the same lines as killing somebody while drunk driving, and when you kill somebody while driving drunk, you dont' have to register with a scarlet letter for the rest of your life[/quote]
agreed!
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 9:26 am to
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My old kicking coach was 23 and a college graduate. He banged a 15 year old freshman cheerleader


Wow, he was both hard up and lacking common sense.
Posted by bigsister
Ponchy
Member since Nov 2009
16 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 9:53 am to
With all that is being said, it doesn't negate the fact that he was wrong. They both were. Im a teacher, and there is NOTHING appelaing about a 13 or 14 year old kid. While Hill is still a student he is an adult that committed an adult crime with a CHILD!! He should be punished as any other adult would. Would it be better if he were 25 and she were 15? Would you understand the law more then? Look beyond his athletic ability and see his flaw. Regardless of how many people have done it and what position they held (older student, teacher, coach) it is still wrong. He got caught too bad, so sad, sorry for ya. Suck it up and drive on.
This post was edited on 1/14/11 at 9:54 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424110 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 10:14 am to
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With all that is being said, it doesn't negate the fact that he was wrong

from a pure legal standpoint? ok

from a moral standpoint? up in the air

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Would it be better if he were 25 and she were 15? Would you understand the law more then?

i asked earlier what people think the cutoff should be for 14 year olds. care to chime in? is 15 too old? 16? 17?
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 10:21 am to
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you must hang out with the band kids.


you're entering a world of pain bmy.
Posted by LSUthrilla
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
2099 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 10:26 am to
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Im a teacher, and there is NOTHING appelaing about a 13 or 14 year old kid. While Hill is still a student he is an adult that committed an adult crime with a CHILD


Obviously there was something appealing for JH and his friend to hook up with this freshman girl, however, if Hill is an adult (mentally) and the girl is a child then why the hell are they in the same school? Would you allow your 14 yr old girl to be in school with 22 yos?

There is an easy way for school systems to prevent all this and that is sticking 9th graders in the middle school.
This post was edited on 1/14/11 at 10:28 am
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40739 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 10:28 am to
Come clean. You just want less competition for Terrence Magee at that running back spot.
Posted by bigsister
Ponchy
Member since Nov 2009
16 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 10:30 am to
I believe the law states that consinting adults are 17 or older. I agree with this. What we are forgetting here is that when you are in the spotlight as our young athlets are, your actions are scrutinized more than that of any other teen because you are being held to a higher standard. Is that right? Probably not, but as a society it is what we do. For example, as a country, we are more concerned and PO with Michael Vicks dog fighting than we are with Tiger Woods' adultry.

Are you a parent? How would you feel if it were your child?
Posted by bigsister
Ponchy
Member since Nov 2009
16 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 10:33 am to
Obviously there was something appealing for JH and his friend to hook up with this freshman girl, however, if Hill is an adult (mentally) and the girl is a child then why the hell are they in the same school? Would you allow your 14 yr old girl to be in school with 22 yos?


No I wouldn't allow my child to be at the same school, but if that were the case, somebody (a parent) forgot to teach morals!

As for the comment about Terrence, competition is what it is. They are two very different people. And there won't be any competition when it come to Hill and Magee or Hill and Blue or any other RB on the team....Hill won't be there!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424110 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 10:33 am to
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What we are forgetting here is that when you are in the spotlight as our young athlets are, your actions are scrutinized more than that of any other teen

who is forgetting this?

even me, who thinks he did nothing wrong, thinks hill was an idiot for putting himself in a stupid position

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For example, as a country, we are more concerned and PO with Michael Vicks dog fighting than we are with Tiger Woods' adultry.

they both got a ton of publicity and it would be hard to rank

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How would you feel if it were your child?

i'd feel that i failed as a parent if my girl was 14 and blowing 2 guys in a locker room
Posted by LSUthrilla
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
2099 posts
Posted on 1/14/11 at 10:35 am to
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Are you a parent? How would you feel if it were your child?


Everyone that keeps saying this, but fail to realize it takes two to tango here. What if the role was reversed and the girl was 18 the boy was 14 etc. How would you feel then? I would think first and foremost that me as a parent screwed up in raising her, BIG TIME.

It is analagous to when a significant other cheats. Alot of people get mad at not the significant other, but at the lover.
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