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re: Anyone still want the Crap1 Bowl?

Posted on 1/8/11 at 1:34 am to
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 1:34 am to
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Cotton was way better than the Cap one this year hands down


If you're talking about the game, that's needless to say, look at the result. If you ignore the result, I still think the Cap One is "better" (the field is also no longer an issue, since they got turf this year). I think for the players, coaches, and traveling fans, the Cotton was probably preferable (though I'd rather go to Orlando than Dallas, personally, but as far as the game/stadium itself is concerned to play/watch in, Dallas is better).

But January 1st is "college football day". Pretty much everyone I met up with that day was talking about it, a lot of people had it in their facebook statuses, it was all over ESPN, etc. The Cotton today I've hardly even heard anything about. Some anchor mentioned the score in passing on ESPN, and that was it. People are concerned with more important things on a Friday night, and until the championship, the college football bowl season has been "complete" since the Sugar Bowl. I know that may not seem like a huge deal, but exposure is never a bad thing. It really depends on how you look at the bowl. If you look at it more as a reward for a good season, then the Cotton is probably better. If you look at it as a start to next season/way to increase buzz/exposure for recruits, the Cap One was better. Again, that's just my opinion.
This post was edited on 1/8/11 at 1:36 am
Posted by Jeff
Biloxi, MS
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 1:48 am to
That whole experience tonight was absolutely badass!
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 2:00 am to
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The Cotton today I've hardly even heard anything about. Some anchor mentioned the score in passing on ESPN, and that was it.
If your rating bowls based on exposure on ESPN, then obviously the Cap1 Bowl will be better than any other bowl game not televised on ESPN (or a related network). Networks don't advertise other networks' broadcasts. It takes an event like the Superbowl or the National Championship to break that rule.

Obviously we are in a different situation than most because we are LSU fans and our team was playing tonight and not on January 1st. But I would not be a bit surprised if significantly more people saw more of this game than they did of any recent Cap1 Bowl. Being the only game on carries a lot of weight, and a shitload of ratings points.

Think about this: there is only one reason for any college football game in history to have ever been scheduled on a day other than a Saturday, or bowl games on Christmas Day or New Years day. And that is to give it a timeslot away from competing college football games. And the weight of that factor alone has given us Tuesday night games, Thursday night games, Friday night games, and bowl games almost every night from December 19th throught January 7th. Why do you think the National Championship Game was moved from January 1st in the first place? If they were afraid of the impact the other New Years day bowl games would have on the National Championship Game, what kind of impact do you think it has on the Cap1 Bowl?

I think the exposure for the Cotton Bowl will turn out to be at least the equal of the Cap1 bowl. And all reports seem to indicate that it also won out on every other aspect as well.

That being said, I hate bowl games after January 1st, but that's only because I am a wildly impractical traditionalist and purist (since it's not up to me, I can afford to be).

Posted by ktowner128
Kenner, LA
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 2:02 am to
A lot of what you are saying is largely due to the fact that the Capital One Bowl was aired on ESPN while the Cotton Bowl was on FOX. Therefore, ESPN gave this game no exposure. However, this was the only game on tonight (as opposed to 2 others at the same times as Cap1) and accessible from every television in America... definitely better than ESPN gave it credit for.
Posted by Jeff
Biloxi, MS
Member since Jan 2004
2223 posts
Posted on 1/8/11 at 2:10 am to
That whole experience tonight was absolutely badass!
Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 2:13 am to
Then you would be wrong.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:00 am to
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the field is also no longer an issue, since they got turf this year).


But the stadium is still fifty years old and in the hood.

A Big Ten guy would probably think Orlando was better, because it's the #2 bowl for that conference, and because they know the way down I-75 pretty well. But anyone south of the Ohio River can see that the Cotton Bowl has a better history, tradition, matchups, and community support. The Cotton has a legitimate shot at being a BCS game if/when they expand. The Cap1 has no chance.

Don't let the fact that ESPN "buried" coverage of the game because it wasn't "their" bowl influence an objective analysis.

It would be fine with me if LSU never went to the Cap1 bowl again.
This post was edited on 1/8/11 at 9:03 am
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:07 am to
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Pretty much everyone I met up with that day was talking about it, a lot of people had it in their facebook statuses, it was all over ESPN, etc.


random people had the Cap One bowl as their facebook status?? I think you're reaching a little. Most folks flipped around and found the best game to watch that day. There was literally no difference in any of those games as far as attraction to the average fan.
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7114 posts
Posted on 1/8/11 at 9:57 am to
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But January 1st is "college football day


You think the Cotton needs a different time/day than a Friday night?
Posted by Cadello
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 10:07 am to
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Buckeye Fan 19
Shut up
Posted by TheoreticalTiger
Big 10 Football sucks!!!
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/8/11 at 11:27 am to
I went to Cap1 last year and Cotton this year. The experience is almost incomparable. There were no 3" flood in the concession area at JW. Cap1 Bowl looks like a HS stadium with it's facilities versus JW. Players, fans, and coaches would much prefer the Cotton at game time over Orlando. Did I mention parking... wow lots of parking and zero shady neighborhoods around.


I slightly agree with the fact that Disney is close but it's crowded as frick during holidays.
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