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re: Teach a man to Fish (Fark Board Beginner Questions)

Posted on 5/7/12 at 10:40 am to
Posted by RonFNSwanson
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Posted on 5/7/12 at 10:40 am to
quote:

Rattlehead


I haven't started with gifs yet, just curious of the basic process/programs you use to get your footage. I really like the ones you do with the stationary heads

I guess the main questions I have are:

-are you using video clips then making gifs?
-do you go frame by frame to add the face?
-I have photoshop/premier elements 10, will this be enough to do what you do?

TIA
Posted by Rattlehead
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/7/12 at 11:28 am to
quote:

-are you using video clips then making gifs?


I use a variety of sources/methods depending on what it is I'm doing. Existing GIFs, pull from YouTube, rip from DVD/Bluray, MKV pulled from usenet, still images modified/animated, etc.

quote:

-do you go frame by frame to add the face?


Yes, for the most part. Sometimes you can use actions (macros) to make things go faster.

quote:

-I have photoshop/premier elements 10, will this be enough to do what you do?


Not sure. I still use ImageReady. Maybe someone else can answer? Or try searching for tutorials.



As a starting point, give me an example of what you are looking to do and I will dig into details.
Posted by RonFNSwanson
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Posted on 5/7/12 at 11:55 am to
quote:

As a starting point, give me an example of what you are looking to do and I will dig into details.


Lets just go with RR down the stairs into the sunglasses. Seems like one of your simpler ones.....
Posted by Rattlehead
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Posted on 5/7/12 at 6:39 pm to
quote:

Lets just go with RR down the stairs into the sunglasses. Seems like one of your simpler ones.....


That one is not as simple as others...but I will pull it up later tonight and put something together for you.
Posted by RonFNSwanson
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Posted on 5/7/12 at 8:55 pm to
Hahaha you make it look easy I guess.


Thanks I really appreciate it
Posted by Rattlehead
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:19 am to
Here are the basics to the Deal With It RR Stairs gif:

1 - SOURCE VIDEO

This was a GIF file already, so there was no need to pull/convert video. Just open it up, crop out the black border and delete the unwanted frames.

2 - RUEBEN RANDEL

Pull in RR transparency to a new layer that is above all video layers. Make the RR layer visible on the last video frame and size/place it. You want to start with the last video frame and work backwards because all non video layers have to be in a specific place for the freeze at the end.

Now just step backward frame by frame making the RR layer visible and size/place/rotate it as you go. Anytime there is a change in size or rotation, copy the previous RR layer and make adjustments. This needs to be done because placement location of a layer can be unique by frame, but size/rotation can't.

3 - GLASSES

Pull in glasses transparency to a new layer that is above all video layers and any RR layers. Make the glasses layer visible on the last video frame and size/place it. Now just step backward frame by frame making the glasses layer visible and place it as you go.

I wanted the glasses to be floating in a spot and RR would move into the glasses for the last freeze frame. I just chose a spot on the wall and placed the glasses to line up with that spot in each frame.

4 - DEAL WITH IT

Create a text layer above all other layers. Make it visible on the last frame and place it.



Hope that helps. I'm not sure how things will match up to your software in terms of functions/methods...but if you have any questions, just let me know.
Posted by RonFNSwanson
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 11:46 am to
thanks for the tips, I'll give it a try and post something whenever I finish

Posted by Rattlehead
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 12:04 pm to
No problem. When you get into it, shout if you have any questions.
Posted by RonFNSwanson
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Posted on 5/9/12 at 11:08 pm to
This is gonna make it seem like I never used a computer before, but how do you take the files from photoshop and turn them into gifs?

I added text to a gif but it is saving it as a .prel

WTF is that?

Posted by InVolNerable
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 5/9/12 at 11:09 pm to
File > Save for Web. Make sure file name ends in .gif
This post was edited on 5/9/12 at 11:10 pm
Posted by RonFNSwanson
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/9/12 at 11:14 pm to
I don't see that. This is Premier Elements 10 if that helps.


can you edit gifs on regular photoshop?
Posted by Smash Mouth Tider
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:09 am to
Could someone please tell me why my "Did not read" is flashing? Did this in Gimp 2.6.

TIA

edit:Crap, I went 19pgs and looked right over.

Thanks, it seems to work now.

This post was edited on 5/10/12 at 11:18 am
Posted by Rattlehead
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Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:20 am to
quote:

Smash Mouth Tider


Check out the last post on Page 17 forward ITT
Posted by Rattlehead
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Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:24 am to
quote:

can you edit gifs on regular photoshop?


Yes...but you can't animate with it. You can edit layers, but there is no functionality for frames that I know of.
Posted by RonFNSwanson
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:55 am to
quote:

es...but you can't animate with it. You can edit layers, but there is no functionality for frames that I know of.


I found this out last night, unfortunately. So here is the situation:

I took a gif, added text. saved it as .prel (the only option). are there converters or something to turn it into a gif?

What Vol told me to do only worked in photoshop, not for premier.
This post was edited on 5/10/12 at 10:56 am
Posted by Rattlehead
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/10/12 at 11:43 am to
I don't know. Is there an export function?

I would search Adobe Product Support...you can't be the first one that has run into this.
Posted by Rattlehead
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/10/12 at 11:45 am to
quote:

Smash Mouth Tider


Cool! I'm going to take that GIF, flip it and make some as well. Good stuff.
Posted by Smash Mouth Tider
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Posted on 5/10/12 at 11:58 am to
Posted by Bunta
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/14/12 at 5:10 pm to
Anyone familiar with GIMP would have any idea why it would all of a sudden stop letting me edit images? When I try to do gifs, I'm having to save each frame to a folder and then open and edit them separately instead of being able to just edit it frame by frame within a single project.
Posted by RonFNSwanson
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/29/12 at 10:03 am to
QUESTION-


What is the best way to save sig images/avi's so they are clear and still fit into the size requirements?


ETA: in Photoshop
This post was edited on 5/29/12 at 10:24 am
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