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re: Which branch of engineering is best from a jobs standpoint?

Posted on 6/26/10 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by LouisianaSportsman
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Posted on 6/26/10 at 3:48 pm to
Uhh if you're going to freaking Louisiana Tech, what's the closet thing to that?
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 6/26/10 at 4:05 pm to
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The old timers had EE or ChemE backgrounds and ended up in power.


I'm an old timer with ChemE so I can see how that would happen.

I agree that there will be a transition to alternative energies and it will need engineers who think outside the box. But it will be pretty chaotic and no place for engineers who want stability.
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 6/26/10 at 4:13 pm to
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what degree is best in economic power?


This really needs to be addressed. Anybody who makes an engineering career choice based on the dollars is screwing up. Unless they really have no idea what discipline to go in to and then they only MAY be screwing up. I've known a couple dozen ChemE's who picked it only for the money. Nearly all are in another field. You can't be happy in a discipline that does not suit you and you cannot fake your way through it. This is WAY more important than the economics.
Posted by kfizzle85
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Posted on 6/26/10 at 5:10 pm to
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eah this is what everyone should realize when getting a degree. The management side is where you make the big money whether you are a lawyer,


Nah, lawyers pretty can much make tons of money no matter what. Small firms make huge $ too. From what I know from people in the legal field, most law firms (from a business/operational standpoint) are terribly run. I speculate it is largely a greed issue.
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 6/26/10 at 5:48 pm to
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Nah, lawyers pretty can much make tons of money no matter what.


Not at all. The bad ones who are incompetant really do suffer for their horrible choice.

The bad ones who have only minimal skills but can bullshite - they can make a ton of money. But karma deals with them.
Posted by kfizzle85
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Posted on 6/26/10 at 5:58 pm to
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Not at all. The bad ones who are incompetant really do suffer for their horrible choice.


I didn't say anything about good lawyers or bad lawyers, it was about whether you had to be in "management" to make a lot of $ as a lawyer.
Posted by Ric Flair
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Posted on 6/26/10 at 7:54 pm to
As an outsider looking in, mechanical seems the most versatile. All of these energy sources need a conduit to deliver to the masses.
Posted by ottothewise
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Posted on 6/26/10 at 8:24 pm to
self assess what you are good at.

the guy who is an industrial engineer will tell you:

Its a people job as much as an analyst job.


Another consideration is where you want to be able to live.


Civil depends on the economy.

EE is good anywhere.


Posted by DollaChoppa
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Posted on 6/26/10 at 9:22 pm to
My dad has always told me that while petroleum pays good now, it goes in cycles and can sometimes be the hardest to find the job. The demand for it is cyclic, is how i always interpreted what he told me. High risk, high reward type thing i guess?

Posted by Tigah in the ATL
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:14 am to
ChemE is good, but that fricking ChemE thermo is scary as shite.
Posted by EllisD
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 5:36 am to
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Petroleum is definitely the most lucrative but their are only certain places that you can get a job as a Petroleum Engineer. All the guys from LSU I knew in petroleum had to go to Texas or overseas to get jobs (albeit very high paying ones). I don't know any who were able to stay BR.



I love it overseas (I'm in Okinawa)... I'm looking for something to do when I get out of the Air Force. How difficult was it for your friends to get degrees in Petroleum Engineering?
Posted by urinetrouble
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 10:01 am to
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Civil depends on the economy.


I don't know about that. I think civil engineers are the most immune to economic downturns since they are the ones that rely the heaviest on public projects. Also, civil engineering jobs are everywhere. There is not a region in the country where there aren't civil engineering jobs.



On another note, I'd be curious how most people feel about the long-term stability of petroleum engineers. Obviously, at some point the importance of that profession will decline. It is just hard to imagine that it will be anything soon, but who knows what will happen alternative energy progress over the course of a few decades.

Perhaps, the recent oil rig disaster will propel the impetus for development of alternative sources for energy, but that statement could be way off.

Posted by DollaChoppa
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 10:08 am to
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I don't know about that. I think civil engineers are the most immune to economic downturns since they are the ones that rely the heaviest on public projects. Also, civil engineering jobs are everywhere. There is not a region in the country where there aren't civil engineering jobs.


Yea civil engineering basically deals with all infrastructure it seems like. I dont think there will ever be a lack of demand for new or improved infrastructure. Pretty much what separates countries and cities from success and fail.
This post was edited on 6/27/10 at 10:09 am
Posted by lnomm34
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 11:25 am to
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Where does environmental fit? That's what my son's major is if he transfers to LSU ... Civil/Environmental concentration if he would stay at UL. ????


I've got my B.S. in Biological Engineering and my M.S. in Biological and Agricultural Engineering from LSU.

I'm currently doing environmental work (mostly water treatment).

The background you get in Biological Engineering gives you a great stepping off point into environmental work. I think environmental engineering is going to be a big and growing field. The growing concerns over clean-technology and carbon footprints are really pushing companies to tighten up their operations. Permits are getting stricter and engineers are being challenged to design systems to meet these new, more stringent permits. I see it everyday at work.

Good luck to your son. I think he's set if he decides he wants to continue with Environmental Engineering.
Posted by man in the stadium
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 2:19 pm to
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Posted by seawolf06
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 6:31 pm to
No one has mentioned nuclear engineering. This could be the new PE if regulations are changed, especially with the political fallout of the oil spill. Purdue and NCSU have good programs, but I'm not sure how many jobs are out there right now. You could always go to the Navy to get the best training and leadership experience. They value nukes pretty highly if you can live the military lifestyle.
Posted by C
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 6:58 pm to
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long-term stability of petroleum engineers


I think it's something for your grand kids to start to worry about. Unless some serious innovation leaps occur in battery storage, I think oil consumption will increase for the next 50 years.
Posted by tiger91
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 7:58 pm to
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lnomm34


Thanks ... he's taking a precalc class this summer and without a great math background from his high school, it's giving him some stress. We'll have to wait to see what Calc itself brings ... he's got 3 as I'm sure that most engineering programs do. Time will tell ... I keep telling him to just focus on the here and now and if need be majors can be changed.

Thanks.
Posted by lnomm34
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 9:11 pm to
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Thanks ... he's taking a precalc class this summer and without a great math background from his high school, it's giving him some stress. We'll have to wait to see what Calc itself brings ... he's got 3 as I'm sure that most engineering programs do. Time will tell ... I keep telling him to just focus on the here and now and if need be majors can be changed.

Thanks.


No problem. I really hope it helps. I keep telling everyone that I know that is interested in environmental sciences or engineering that the field will in demand in the coming years.

Get him through the Calculus and Differential Equation classes and the rest of the curriculum should fall into place. The math is difficult, but not impossible in the core engineering classes.
Posted by urinetrouble
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 9:38 pm to
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Thanks ... he's taking a precalc class this summer and without a great math background from his high school, it's giving him some stress. We'll have to wait to see what Calc itself brings ... he's got 3 as I'm sure that most engineering programs do. Time will tell ... I keep telling him to just focus on the here and now and if need be majors can be changed.


Tell him not to get discouraged and to keep at it.

I had a weak math teacher in high school and struggled early on in my college pre-calc course. Part of it is getting acclimated to the high paced nature of a college course and developing an understanding of how much work and preparation is needed to succeed. I quickly learned and ultimately went on to ace all of the math courses I took in my engineering curriculum.


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