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Posted by Rockerbraves
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Posted on 1/8/10 at 10:55 am to
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Did anybody catch Fowler's comment after the game last night to Saban? He commented about Saban's BCSNC at LSU and how he left it set up for Miles to win also. Saban did not respond to it.
Did Pete Carroll
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 10:56 am to
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well do you guys think Saban is winning with Shula's boys?



they both won a NC three years after arriving at the school. there's no way you can rag on Miles about winning with Saban's players without saying the same thing about Nicky.
Posted by chingonLSU
CA
Member since Oct 2009
424 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 10:57 am to
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I meant McElroy wasn't flashy just steady. Although, not good numbers last night. "Game Manager"
i know what you're saying and in that respect i agree a little, but Flynn was even better at that in my opinion. you honestly can't say McElroy did anything impressive at all last night. no interceptions? that tends to happen when you don't throw the ball, so i can't give him credit for that. when you only throw a handful of times you'd expect to complete most of them because it typically means your running game has set you up for some easy play action passes. i don't know, he may not have lost any games but i don't look at him as really "winning" any either.
Posted by lesgeaux
Member since Jul 2008
3623 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 10:57 am to
Saban won with Shula's players





Not really. Unfortunately, he is the best in college football.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 10:57 am to
some one broke it down back after the 07 season, but offensive and defensive production was roughly 50/50 between players Miles inherited and the ones he recruited.
Posted by DA
Member since Sep 2007
16251 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 10:58 am to
Well, now that LM is losing with LM's players, that's all that really matters.

And, Saban will upgrade the talent at Bama, so it only get harder.
Posted by geaux99
Wamegeaux, KS
Member since Aug 2005
1593 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:30 am to
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well do you guys think Saban is winning with Shula's boys?


No, I Saban is making winners out of Shula's boys...instilling discipline, demanding excellence.

And BTW, Julio Jones, Trent Richardson, Mark Ingram, Rolando McClain...sound familiar. They were all recruited by Saban.

Yet another Miles Apologist mantra goes down the drain...but hey, you can still talk about his 51 wins.
Posted by KappaSwig
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
502 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:33 am to
From Fowler's mouth to God's ear, huh?

One of the commentators also suggested that the Miami people were ready to "run off" Saban. Guess that's true, too, huh?

The media are prostitutes. Three years ago Saban was a lying hypocrite. He wins now & he's the best since sliced-bread. I'm not disagreeing with Fowler's comment, but just pointing out that what the media says about a particular coach at a particular time is like building your house on shifting sand.
Posted by diehardfan
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2005
5333 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:35 am to
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I did catch it, and despite what the majority of the Rant, and all Miles Apoogists believe...it's the truth. It's the Elephant in the room when it comes to discussing Miles abilities as a coach. Miles walked into a great situation (just like Coker...another comparrison that Miles Apologists love to try to controvert). That championship was his to lose...and he almost did.


Absolutely. It's painfully obvious to everyone except for a group of LSU fans who either can not see it, or refuse to believe it.
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
Member since Jan 2009
27604 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:38 am to
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No, I Saban is making winners out of Shula's boys...instilling discipline, demanding excellence.

And BTW, Julio Jones, Trent Richardson, Mark Ingram, Rolando McClain...sound familiar. They were all recruited by Saban.

Yet another Miles Apologist mantra goes down the drain...but hey, you can still talk about his 51 wins.



I agree with your premise, however, McClain came to UA in '06. Coach Saban caught lighting in a bottle with Ro. Rolando wanted to play for UA, even with Coach Shula being there. It is just very fortuitous that they, being Coach Saban and Ro, are cut from the same cloth. Some NFL team is going to be very lucky to get McClain.
Posted by someoldhussy
Candyland
Member since Jun 2007
2439 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:41 am to
McElroy is a better QB than Flynn was.

2508 yards, 60.9%, 7.72 YPA, 17 TD/4 INT, 140.5 Rating

2407 yards, 56.3%, 6.71 YPA, 21 TD/11 INT, 125.8 Rating

And just because I'm sure some of you will say that McElroy got to play with the Heisman winner and another great tailback, Alabama was 12th in rushing offense this year. LSU had the #11 rushing offense to back up Flynn.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
18430 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:58 am to
am i the first?

we all know

ESPN/ABS HATES LSU
Posted by geaux99
Wamegeaux, KS
Member since Aug 2005
1593 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:05 pm to
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however, McClain came to UA in '06.


Sorry...I'll take the word of a Bama alum (chuckle), but Rivals has him listed in the 2007 class. I know Saban stepped onto campus in like December of 2006, but he still signed McClain if Rivals is correct. To me, he's Saban's guy because Saban held onto him, signed him (if Rivals is correct) and, of course, molded him into the player he is today.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:10 pm to
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McElroy plays like Flynn
Not even remotely true


Agreed. MF was far better than McElroy but the latter does have another year to improve. Defense and an AA running game won the national title. LSU had better offenses in '03 and 07 FWIW. Mauck and McElroy are a better comparison IMO.
Posted by SFVtiger
Member since Oct 2003
4339 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:15 pm to
i don't think fowler was making any direct reference to miles winning w/ saban's talent. i mean he was talking about saban and his accomplishments: won a nc at lsu and ala, and left miles w/ talent (which he did). i think we're too sensitive to the "winning w/ saban's talent" mantra we heard back then.
just my opinion
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9682 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:44 pm to
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well do you guys think Saban is winning with Shula's boys?


no 90% the damn starters were guys saban recruited...all sophs and Jrs
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