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re: Can Garrett beat out JJ?
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:39 pm to Navytiger74
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:39 pm to Navytiger74
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JJ needs to improve quite a bit between now and next September, but I can't think of a single one of our losses that can be squarely placed on him.
Yes he does need to improve, i just dont see why people think he cant improve.
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Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:39 pm to Saint Slidell
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Plenty of redshirt freshman turn out to be great QB's.
Eventually they do but not many are good as redshirt freshman in the SEC. Maybe Garrett's the exception but I doubt it.
This post was edited on 1/6/10 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:42 pm to mprtiger
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Yes he does need to improve, i just dont see why people think he cant improve.
I dont know, maybe for the same reason nobody thought JL could.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:44 pm to saintsfan22
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Eventually they do but not many are good as redshirt freshman in the SEC. Maybe Garrett's the exception but I doubt it.
Payton and Eli Manning, Rex Grossman and David Greene or just a few off the top of my head.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:48 pm to TIGRLEE
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Yes he does need to improve, i just dont see why people think he cant improve.
I dont know, maybe for the same reason nobody thought JL could.
JL was completely mind fricked after 2008, he probably needs to go to a completely different school to improve and be successfull
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:48 pm to mprtiger
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Yes he does need to improve, i just dont see why people think he cant improve.
I'm sure he can. Most of his faults smack of inexperience to me. His arm is decent, he scrambles pretty well, and he's reasonably accurate. Even if he never reaches "elite" status, he has the potential to as good as Matt Flynn. Once he has confidence in the line in front of him and a good running game we should see better pocket presence as well.
I think the kid can be a very good SEC quarterback if he's set up for success. Maybe he can even be one of the best in the NCAA.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:48 pm to Saint Slidell
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Payton and Eli Manning
Eli barely played as a freshman and Peyton was primarily a backup but he played good once given the opportunity. I guarantee Garrett isn't Peyton Manning.
This post was edited on 1/6/10 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:49 pm to mprtiger
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Yes he does need to improve, i just dont see why people think he cant improve.
do you notice that deer eye in the open field look on his face in most situations, when he is playing. that is about 25 minutes per game! IMHO, 25 minutes too much!
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:50 pm to BayouMusty
i'm not trying to keep bringing up the past, but if you think about it Perilloux not only ruined his own college football career, he ruined JL's and JJ's by making them have to step up with no experience whatsoever. Makes you wonder how differently they would have played after watching and learning from Perilloux for two years.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:52 pm to LSUownsSEC
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do you notice that deer eye in the open field look on his face in most situations, when he is playing. that is about 25 minutes per game! IMHO, 25 minutes too much!
I wouldn't focus so much on the look on the kid's face. He was a four star pro-style recruit. He knows how to be a quarterback. He just needs to be coached up some. He also needs a better line, better play calling, a running game, and some confidence.
A year is a long time. He can only get better. And frankly, he isn't that bad right now.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:54 pm to BayouMusty
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i'm not trying to keep bringing up the past, but if you think about it Perilloux not only ruined his own college football career, he ruined JL's and JJ's
JJ's career is far from ruined, and JL just needs a fresh start somewhere else.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 10:00 pm to BayouMusty
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i'm not trying to keep bringing up the past, but if you think about it Perilloux not only ruined his own college football career
please let those two years go or blame on the coach that recruited him and kept him one season too long?
Posted on 1/6/10 at 10:02 pm to LSUownsSEC
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do you notice that deer eye in the open field look on his face in most situations, when he is playing. that is about 25 minutes per game! IMHO, 25 minutes too much!
probably has alot to do with inexperience, and probably wont be a problem next year.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 10:03 pm to mprtiger
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probably has alot to do with inexperience, and probably wont be a problem next year.
yeah being as it got progressivly better as the year went along.
Come on mpr you are better than that.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 10:09 pm to TIGRLEE
Im not saying jj is a world beater and will be an all-star, but he had alot of bullshite to work with and put up decent stats, i think hes done well enough to start next year. 
This post was edited on 1/6/10 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 1/6/10 at 10:44 pm to mprtiger
why would we want Garrett to start next year? I forgot, after spring game he was going to be a All SEC player...cmon
Posted on 1/7/10 at 10:42 am to seinfeldtiger
Until we hire someone to develop Q.B.'s we are never going to recruit the top flight Q.B.'s which boggles the Mind,because they could surround themselves with all the talent we continue to pull in Flynn,and Mauck were not Top flight Q.B.s,but they didnt have to be.Who would you rather have had last year Shep or Barkley? think about your answer before you post it.Athlete's are a dime a dozen,But true Q.B.'s.are diamond's in the rough. J.J. should be fine next year due to experience.His problem I see are Mechanic's,and Accuracy both can be fixed with proper coaching.Garrett will be a star for us just not next year,but mark my words Garrett will show you why we need a pure drop back Q.B.who can thread the needle.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 10:45 am to GatorTrunk
Gator Trunk this is one of the best answer I have seen on this board this yr. We are stuck on stupid with Crowton & the other OF coaches. 
Posted on 1/7/10 at 10:46 am to c harmon
There is nothing wrong with JJ that a competent OL and some sort of QB-coaching wouldnt cure. I think he did well for a true soph with the worst OL I've ever seen. He did damn good in his two games in 2008--when he had a good OL.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 11:35 am to BayouMusty
For all Tiger fans, I certainly hope so. Another year with Jefferson will doom the program foir several more. On the upside, it will hopefully get Miles fired
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