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Saban built LSU from ground up?
Posted on 11/9/09 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 11/9/09 at 3:57 pm
Following are players who were on LSU's roster in 2000 during Nick Saban's first year at LSU:
OFFENSE
Rohan Davey QB**
Craig Nall QB**
Josh Booty QB**
Josh Reed WR**
Domanick Davis RB**
Labrandon Toefield RB**
Robert Royal TE**
Stephen Peterman OG**
Devery Henderson WR**
Donnie Jones**
Tommy Banks FB
Jerel Myers WR
Reggie Robinson WR
DEFENSE
Trev Faulk LB**
Bradie James LB**
Ryan Clark S**
Fred Booker CB**
Jarvis Green DE**
Kenderick Allen DT**
Howard Green DT**
Chad Lavalais DT**
Eric Alexander LB**
Adrian Mayes CB**
Jeremy Lawrence LB
**denote players who eventually played in the NFL
So, when Nick Saban took over at LSU in 2000, he inherited at least 20 players who went on to play in the NFL.
According to many on this board, Saban built the LSU program from the ground up. That assertion is not supported by the facts as LSU had a lot of talent on board when Saban took over.
I agree that Saban taught LSU how to win over time, but even with the talent he had on hand, Saban lost 12 games his first three years at LSU and 3 during his fifth and final season. Yet many LSU fans consider Saban infallible as a coach.
The same results from Miles would cause Miles to be run out of town as evidenced by the calls for his head after losing to the top two teams in the country this season. However, I guess some would rather make decisions based upon emotion rather than facts and/or results.
OFFENSE
Rohan Davey QB**
Craig Nall QB**
Josh Booty QB**
Josh Reed WR**
Domanick Davis RB**
Labrandon Toefield RB**
Robert Royal TE**
Stephen Peterman OG**
Devery Henderson WR**
Donnie Jones**
Tommy Banks FB
Jerel Myers WR
Reggie Robinson WR
DEFENSE
Trev Faulk LB**
Bradie James LB**
Ryan Clark S**
Fred Booker CB**
Jarvis Green DE**
Kenderick Allen DT**
Howard Green DT**
Chad Lavalais DT**
Eric Alexander LB**
Adrian Mayes CB**
Jeremy Lawrence LB
**denote players who eventually played in the NFL
So, when Nick Saban took over at LSU in 2000, he inherited at least 20 players who went on to play in the NFL.
According to many on this board, Saban built the LSU program from the ground up. That assertion is not supported by the facts as LSU had a lot of talent on board when Saban took over.
I agree that Saban taught LSU how to win over time, but even with the talent he had on hand, Saban lost 12 games his first three years at LSU and 3 during his fifth and final season. Yet many LSU fans consider Saban infallible as a coach.
The same results from Miles would cause Miles to be run out of town as evidenced by the calls for his head after losing to the top two teams in the country this season. However, I guess some would rather make decisions based upon emotion rather than facts and/or results.
This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 4:01 pm
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Posted on 11/9/09 at 3:58 pm to Leonides
Dinardo>Saban<Miles
Posted on 11/9/09 at 3:59 pm to Leonides
frick, you miles coolaid drinkers just cannot give up your hate for Saban. LSU has always had some decent talent, it just a matter of coaching them and Saban coached them and imo better than Miles.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 4:01 pm to Leonides
indisputable evidence gets you nowhere on the rant.... 
Posted on 11/9/09 at 4:02 pm to Leonides
Good post, but you are bringing way to much logic to the rant.
I swear most of the posters on the rant are worse than a crazy obsessed ex girlfriend when it comes to the great $aban.
I swear most of the posters on the rant are worse than a crazy obsessed ex girlfriend when it comes to the great $aban.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 4:02 pm to Leonides
Lil nicky aint done nuttin at BAMA
LES is More
DA MAD HATTA
LES is More
DA MAD HATTA
Posted on 11/9/09 at 4:03 pm to Leonides
Saban lost his last two games at LSU....He SUCKED!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 11/9/09 at 4:04 pm to Leonides
Not this shite again! LSU lost 8 freakin games the season prior to Saban. 15 losses in the 2 seasons prior. He went 8-0 in his 2nd season at Bama and is poised to go 8-0 again this season.
I hate the lil prick, but why the hell do idiot fans need to substantiate what he did at LSU?
I hate the lil prick, but why the hell do idiot fans need to substantiate what he did at LSU?
Posted on 11/9/09 at 4:07 pm to Leonides
quote:
Leonides
Was LSU considered at top tier team in 2000? did anyone really know of any of these players before saban got here besides Josh Booty or maybe trev Faulk?
Posted on 11/9/09 at 4:11 pm to Leonides
quote:
Leonides
Now time to compare how many NFL players Miles inherited..
Posted on 11/9/09 at 4:14 pm to Leonides
Saban and Miles both took over programs with tons of talent. The Saban years gave Miles the measureable advantage of a program on the rise in the public's eyes. That's what Saban did from the ground up. Dinardo's last two years had demoralized much of Tiger Nation and severely reduced the team's national perception. Saban winning the first SEC title in 13 years and then the first MNC in 45 years busted open the doorway to national prominence that the Tigers had been excluded from entering for over a decade. Dinardo could lure the talent, just couldn't manage it properly on the field. In many ways I see Les in the same light. The big difference in every year save '08 is Les does hire better coaching talent than Jerry ever did.
I will add that had the coaches been reversed for this game last Saturday the plethora of horrendous wrong calls and no calls would have doomed a Saban-led Tiger team as well IMHO.
I will add that had the coaches been reversed for this game last Saturday the plethora of horrendous wrong calls and no calls would have doomed a Saban-led Tiger team as well IMHO.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 4:20 pm to Leonides
Nevermind I will do it for you
Shyrone Carey
Craig Davis**
Jamarcus Russell**
Skyler Green
Ali Highsmith**
Early Doucet**
Ronnie Prude
Matt Flynn**
Craig Steltz**
Jacob Hester**
Bennie Brazell
Jonathan Zenon
Chevis Jackson**
Justin Vincent**
LaRon Landry**
Quinn Johnson**
Darry Beckwith**
Rudy Niswanger**
Nate Livings**
Glenn Dorsey**
Andrew Whitworth**
Dwayne Bowe**
Rickey Jean Francios**
Melvin Oliver
Kyle Williams**
Claude Whoten
Tyson Jackson**
Chase Pittman
Marlon Favorite**
Brett Helms**
Herman Johnson**
Curtis Taylor**
Keith Zinger**
Shyrone Carey
Craig Davis**
Jamarcus Russell**
Skyler Green
Ali Highsmith**
Early Doucet**
Ronnie Prude
Matt Flynn**
Craig Steltz**
Jacob Hester**
Bennie Brazell
Jonathan Zenon
Chevis Jackson**
Justin Vincent**
LaRon Landry**
Quinn Johnson**
Darry Beckwith**
Rudy Niswanger**
Nate Livings**
Glenn Dorsey**
Andrew Whitworth**
Dwayne Bowe**
Rickey Jean Francios**
Melvin Oliver
Kyle Williams**
Claude Whoten
Tyson Jackson**
Chase Pittman
Marlon Favorite**
Brett Helms**
Herman Johnson**
Curtis Taylor**
Keith Zinger**
This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 11/9/09 at 4:37 pm to Leonides
absolutely fantastic post. saban inherited a lot. he did at bama too. dinardo was the guy who rebuilt lsu. if he had not hired lou tepper and had not refused to fire him he would have lasted a lot longer. 
Posted on 11/9/09 at 4:40 pm to Leonides
He won with Shula's recruits too last year.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 4:45 pm to Leonides
How many coaches walk in to a program with 3 QB's who will make NFL rosters?
Posted on 11/9/09 at 5:25 pm to Leonides
During Saban's five seasons at LSU (2000-2004), he had 24 players that were selected in the NFL draft. Of these 24 players, 17 were already on the LSU roster before Saban ever coached a game as a Tiger.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 5:43 pm to Leonides
The original poster left off Brandon Whiney, Norman Lejeune, and Louis Williams. There were actually 23 players that Saban inherited that played pro football. With those 23, he lost to UAB. Saban did alot of great things, but he inherited many good players. His worshipers hold Miles to a different standard.
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