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The saga of underperforming active mgt continues...

Posted on 10/16/09 at 5:33 pm
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 10/16/09 at 5:33 pm
Morningstar star study, Active versus indexed style

A whopping 37% of active management met or exceed their respective indexed benchmarks over the past 3-years. Woo hoo, where is all that Alpha active management generates for unsuspecting retail investors? Many better performing winners had large cash positions, shocking. I assume this is before taxes as well.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135051 posts
Posted on 10/16/09 at 5:53 pm to
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I assume this is before taxes as well.

All mutual fund data is reported pre-tax to the shareholders.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15372 posts
Posted on 10/16/09 at 5:55 pm to
You morons just don't get it. Licensed financial professionals can predict beforehand which funds will do well and which ones won't. They have pamphlets and everything.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135051 posts
Posted on 10/16/09 at 6:01 pm to
Well done.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10995 posts
Posted on 10/16/09 at 6:04 pm to
Yeah, my point was with turnover in the funds it would make the performance worse. It is a good report with holdings adjusted for size/style instead of the usual garbage of comparing a multi-asset active fund to the SPX.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10995 posts
Posted on 10/16/09 at 6:06 pm to
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You morons just don't get it. Licensed financial professionals can predict beforehand which funds will do well and which ones won't. They have pamphlets and everything.


So they say.
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
21902 posts
Posted on 10/16/09 at 7:02 pm to
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A whopping 37%
That's actually higher than I would have expected.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 10/16/09 at 9:28 pm to
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They have pamphlets and everything.


Well damn. If they'd just not send me the pamphlets and rebate the cost of mailing I'd be fine with that.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10995 posts
Posted on 10/17/09 at 12:42 pm to
Not really with the mega bear market if the managers had any skill coming out. I would expect much lower performance measured in the next 5 & 10 year cumulative aggregate, probably back down to 20% or lower. The cash holdings saved many of them on the downslope as well.
Posted by Parliament
Member since Dec 2007
5787 posts
Posted on 10/17/09 at 10:06 pm to
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A whopping 37% of active management met or exceed their respective indexed benchmarks over the past 3-years.


Good thing I do all of my investing based on the advice of the MT sages.
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