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re: Why We HAVE to Play JL and RS Very Soon at QB

Posted on 10/14/09 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14764 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 2:04 pm to
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JJ is done


Funny. I heard the same thing last year about Lee. And that we HAD to play Jefferson soon. My, how things have come full circle.
Posted by Lee Chatelain
I love the OT!
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/14/09 at 2:05 pm to
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So when did you decide all the sacks are JJ's fault and started giving the o-line a free pass?


I don't give the O-line a free pass, they are crap too. I fault JJ for holding on to the ball and getting sacked. He doesn't even try to get rid of it. I have thought from day one that J.L. was better. Even with the INT, he still threw for more yards and TD's than JJ. J.L. definitely deserves another shot, and I think Miles owes it to him.
This post was edited on 10/14/09 at 2:09 pm
Posted by Lee Chatelain
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Posted on 10/14/09 at 2:08 pm to
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he got benched because he got hurt and JJJ played better then he did


What you call better a shitty Ga. Tech team better. J.L. would've looked like a Heisman candidate too.....

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it won't cause Jefferson is the starter


and b/c Miles waits until it's too late to do something about a bad situation
Posted by Sammobile
Hollywood South
Member since Jan 2009
22330 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 2:09 pm to
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and b/c Miles waits until it's too late to do something about a bad situation

no because Les knows he should bench his QB after one bad start
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
34675 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 2:11 pm to
when the girl at the Avis car rental counter in New Orleans said that JJ looked like a deer in the headlights.........that ought to be pretty obvious to the coaching staff too....

i think both JL and RS should be allowed to play a couple of series each.....and let JJ watch what the defense is doing from the sidelines.....
Posted by Sammobile
Hollywood South
Member since Jan 2009
22330 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 2:12 pm to
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So you want us to just lose by 3 instead of maybe winning. Good plan.

are you talking about

you said: A loss is a loss regardless of by how much.

and i said not in college because if we would have gotten beat down by Florida we wouldn't be #10
Posted by rji1160
Member since May 2004
21 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 2:14 pm to
Not all the sacks are JJ's fault but he does not help the O line. He does not step up into the pocket he just does not have that six sense that good QB's have.
Posted by Lee Chatelain
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/14/09 at 2:17 pm to
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He does not step up into the pocket he just does not have that six sense that good QB's have.


Neither did the great JaMarcus Russell.
This post was edited on 10/14/09 at 2:18 pm
Posted by ellis1975
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2007
1058 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 2:18 pm to
JJ getting sacked is as much on him as it is the O-line. He normally looks for his first read and if the target doesn't come open, he takes off running OR holds the ball just waiting. There are PLENTY of times where he should have just thrown the ball away but instead he ate the sack. Yes, there are times that the O-line does not protect well or at all and he is sacked.

JL stared down WR's and threw into tight coverage routinely LAST YEAR. I think that the kid has a good arm and could offer a better ability to stretch the field vertically. He probably knows more of the playbook than JJ because last year his only problem was forcing throws, not play selection.

RS probably doesn't know enough of the playbook to be brought in for more than the occasional QB run or read option play. Still, it would be a nice change of pace if used correctly.

IMHO I think that JJ should be the starter but that we should use JL for at least one series per quarter. If one proves to be having a hot hand, then we stick with him. RS should get a snap here and there sprinkled throughout the game. It gets our 3 main QB's experience while at the same time forcing defenses to prepare for the different abilities that all 3 bring.

I think that our coaching staff chose JJ because he is best at not turning the ball over, which is HUGE! But he leaves a lot to be desired in his ability to consistently move this offense with his arm. Each has the ability to offer something different and while we don't have a complete product in one package, together all 3 could prove to be just what this offense needs.
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 2:19 pm to
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Not all the sacks are JJ's fault but he does not help the O line. He does not step up into the pocket he just does not have that six sense that good QB's have.



I haven't seen ONE SINGLE resemblance of a pocket yet. The "step up" argument is a farce.
Posted by rji1160
Member since May 2004
21 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 2:21 pm to
I haven't seen ONE SINGLE resemblance of a pocket yet. The "step up" argument is a farce.

Then you are not watching the game.
Posted by tygrman
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2004
173 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 2:26 pm to
As per the usual on this board, extremists abound and what is needed is a level head. JJ is NOT done.....AND.....JL is Not some fricking loser who doesn't ever deserve a chance again. The best solution to our QB problem (I'm not addressing the OL so give it a rest) is to start JJ as usual but have JL come in for a couple series (especially early in the game) to give him a chance to show improvement AND to give JJ a chance to see what the D is doing from the sidelines to adjust himself. If you're just dying to see Shep, I'm fine with him playing a few downs, but he does seem to loose the handle on the football about every 3rd time he touches it (which may be why we haven't seen him lately)............all this humbly IMO.
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 2:27 pm to
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Then you are not watching the game.



When your center is be dragged all over the field it makes it kind of tough to step up. Not to mention Crowton refuses to call short to intermediate routes. As long as WRs are all running 20yd routes it doesn't matter if Tom Brady is our QB.
Posted by Night Man
Member since Aug 2009
1746 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 2:28 pm to
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Against Bama, with Mt. Cody lining up over T-Bob


Posted by DoubleDeuce
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2006
832 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 2:31 pm to
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I haven't seen ONE SINGLE resemblance of a pocket yet. The "step up" argument is a farce.


LINK

Go to 1:36 and watch these back to back sacks. Maybe there isn't a "defined" pocket, but there is room to step-up. You cannot take a 5 step drop when you are in the shot-gun.

The bottom-line is that JJ plays scared. You cannot play QB scared or indecisive. You must have a baseball attitude (I guess that is why so many like Mauk have success) where you know you will fail and you go back out and do it again. If you play to not make mistakes then you need to find another position or another sport. It's the one position that you must make mistakes to improve. JJ won't improve because he's so afraid to make a mistake because of what he witnessed last year.
Posted by TigerBandAlumnus82
Pensacola,FL
Member since Jul 2007
3104 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 2:32 pm to
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Sure, there is a HUGE downside to JL,

That was last year. Last year. LAST YEAR.

We don't know if there's still a downside since he hasn't played this year except for the TD pass against Vanderbilt. At least there's the distinct possibility that we'll have some semblance of a college level passing offense if he's playing.........
Posted by DoubleDeuce
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2006
832 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 2:33 pm to
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As long as WRs are all running 20yd routes it doesn't matter if Tom Brady is our QB.


There are intermediate routes. JJ refuses to throw that route.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84289 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 2:33 pm to
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are you talking about

you said: A loss is a loss regardless of by how much.

and i said not in college because if we would have gotten beat down by Florida we wouldn't be #10


My point is if we keep losing, it won't matter. Not that hard to understand.
Posted by rji1160
Member since May 2004
21 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 2:34 pm to
Maybe the reason Crowton is not calling the intermediate routes is because JJ can't throw them.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84289 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 2:34 pm to
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I haven't seen ONE SINGLE resemblance of a pocket yet. The "step up" argument is a farce.


You must listen to the game instead of watch.
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