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Jarrett Lee and Jordan Jefferson
Posted on 10/13/09 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 10/13/09 at 9:30 pm
It seems like everyone is forgetting/exaggerating/making up statistics about both Jarrett Lee and Jordan Jefferson.
One of the main points that everyone is making that is annoying the shite out of me about Jarrett Lee is how well the offense "rolled" with him as the QB. Against BCS opponents Jarrett Lee only led the Tigers to 30+ points 2 times in 7 games, while Jordan Jefferson has lead them to 30+ points 4 times in 7 games, also against BCS opponents. We've scored 20+ against BCS opponents 6 out of 7 times under Jefferson and the only case in which we didn't was against the best defense in the entire country with 4 possible first rounders as their DB's and a top five as their MLB, with the rest of the defense being likely draft picks in the next 3 years.
Another fact is that Jarrett Lee wasn't "airing it out" like everyone wants Jefferson to do. 4 out of 8 of Lee's touchdown passes in SEC play last year were of 10 yards or less. How can you claim that Lee's arm is so superior if he's throwing 10 yarders half the time?
Everyone is also on and on about how Lee was "just a freshman" and how "it will come with maturity". Are we forgetting that Lee STILL threw plenty of interceptions this offseason? Obviously he hasn't come that far along. Right now Jefferson is the same age that Lee was last year and is still a young kid, Lee on the other hand is the age of a junior making the same mistakes a freshman would make.
It looks like everyone is all of a sudden trying to make themselves feel better and more confident that the offense will be saved by Jarrett Lee by seeing his terrible year last year through rose colored glasses and hoping that he'll come in mature and strong, and I hate to say it, but if the coaching staff felt he could he would've had a chance by now.
One of the main points that everyone is making that is annoying the shite out of me about Jarrett Lee is how well the offense "rolled" with him as the QB. Against BCS opponents Jarrett Lee only led the Tigers to 30+ points 2 times in 7 games, while Jordan Jefferson has lead them to 30+ points 4 times in 7 games, also against BCS opponents. We've scored 20+ against BCS opponents 6 out of 7 times under Jefferson and the only case in which we didn't was against the best defense in the entire country with 4 possible first rounders as their DB's and a top five as their MLB, with the rest of the defense being likely draft picks in the next 3 years.
Another fact is that Jarrett Lee wasn't "airing it out" like everyone wants Jefferson to do. 4 out of 8 of Lee's touchdown passes in SEC play last year were of 10 yards or less. How can you claim that Lee's arm is so superior if he's throwing 10 yarders half the time?
Everyone is also on and on about how Lee was "just a freshman" and how "it will come with maturity". Are we forgetting that Lee STILL threw plenty of interceptions this offseason? Obviously he hasn't come that far along. Right now Jefferson is the same age that Lee was last year and is still a young kid, Lee on the other hand is the age of a junior making the same mistakes a freshman would make.
It looks like everyone is all of a sudden trying to make themselves feel better and more confident that the offense will be saved by Jarrett Lee by seeing his terrible year last year through rose colored glasses and hoping that he'll come in mature and strong, and I hate to say it, but if the coaching staff felt he could he would've had a chance by now.
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Posted on 10/13/09 at 9:38 pm to olomgamer231
You know you hit the nail on the head when there are no responses! I agree completely with your assessment.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 9:40 pm to olomgamer231
I don't know that either guy can save it. That is what is alarming.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 9:43 pm to olomgamer231
Hmmmm.....
There are a couple of posters that are noticeably absent.
There are a couple of posters that are noticeably absent.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 9:50 pm to olomgamer231
You know Jefferson has only played 3 defenses that were ranked in Top 50 in either year?
Washington- 106
Georgia- 75
ULL- 92
Mississippi State- 71
Vandy- 22
Florida- 3
2008:
GT- 25
Arkansas- 72
Lee last season had
Alabama- 3
Florida- 9
South Carolina- 13
Ole Miss- 19
Georgia- 22
Auburn- 29
Troy- 34
Mississippi State- 35
Tulane- 84
Not saying who should start, but the numbers can lie if you play with them enough.
Washington- 106
Georgia- 75
ULL- 92
Mississippi State- 71
Vandy- 22
Florida- 3
2008:
GT- 25
Arkansas- 72
Lee last season had
Alabama- 3
Florida- 9
South Carolina- 13
Ole Miss- 19
Georgia- 22
Auburn- 29
Troy- 34
Mississippi State- 35
Tulane- 84
Not saying who should start, but the numbers can lie if you play with them enough.
This post was edited on 10/13/09 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 10/13/09 at 9:55 pm to olomgamer231
I think the "start lee" crowd has a point. He has the ability to take advantage of our tall receivers by throwing the ball downfield without apprehension.
Should they bench JJ for playing poorly against a defense that returned EVERY starter and backups? No.
Should Lee get a shot if Jefferson continues to struggle? yeah.
Should they bench JJ for playing poorly against a defense that returned EVERY starter and backups? No.
Should Lee get a shot if Jefferson continues to struggle? yeah.
This post was edited on 10/13/09 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 10/13/09 at 9:56 pm to olomgamer231
who is asking for lee to start? i think lee should at least play 1 series a game though
Posted on 10/13/09 at 9:56 pm to olomgamer231
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This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 8:58 am
Posted on 10/13/09 at 10:00 pm to olomgamer231
quote:
It seems like everyone is forgetting/exaggerating/making up statistics about both Jarrett Lee and Jordan Jefferson.
One of the main points that everyone is making that is annoying the shite out of me about Jarrett Lee is how well the offense "rolled" with him as the QB. Against BCS opponents Jarrett Lee only led the Tigers to 30+ points 2 times in 7 games, while Jordan Jefferson has lead them to 30+ points 4 times in 7 games, also against BCS opponents. We've scored 20+ against BCS opponents 6 out of 7 times under Jefferson and the only case in which we didn't was against the best defense in the entire country with 4 possible first rounders as their DB's and a top five as their MLB, with the rest of the defense being likely draft picks in the next 3 years.
Another fact is that Jarrett Lee wasn't "airing it out" like everyone wants Jefferson to do. 4 out of 8 of Lee's touchdown passes in SEC play last year were of 10 yards or less. How can you claim that Lee's arm is so superior if he's throwing 10 yarders half the time?
Everyone is also on and on about how Lee was "just a freshman" and how "it will come with maturity". Are we forgetting that Lee STILL threw plenty of interceptions this offseason? Obviously he hasn't come that far along. Right now Jefferson is the same age that Lee was last year and is still a young kid, Lee on the other hand is the age of a junior making the same mistakes a freshman would make.
It looks like everyone is all of a sudden trying to make themselves feel better and more confident that the offense will be saved by Jarrett Lee by seeing his terrible year last year through rose colored glasses and hoping that he'll come in mature and strong, and I hate to say it, but if the coaching staff felt he could he would've had a chance by now.
Dropping truthbombs on the unsuspecting public.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 10:17 pm to olomgamer231
Well, you're not wrong. There's little right and wrong in this debate. Just that Lee has had time to mature and things are obviously not working for JJ right now. I'm not saying replace him as much as let JL in for some series here and there.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 10:18 pm to olomgamer231
Lots of good points made in this thread.
I have been a proponent of getting Jarret Lee in for a series or two or more, when JJ was struggling or the opposing defense seemed to have him "figured out."
We cannot have a "cult of personality" situation where JJ is seen as Jesus and no one else matters. It's like we are trying to re-create the Ryan P. situation.....where we need one "GOD" and not be undecided about 2 QBs.
As Chicken posted in the Mickey Guidry thread, a semi-dual-QB system served us very well.
We should return to this.
I have been a proponent of getting Jarret Lee in for a series or two or more, when JJ was struggling or the opposing defense seemed to have him "figured out."
We cannot have a "cult of personality" situation where JJ is seen as Jesus and no one else matters. It's like we are trying to re-create the Ryan P. situation.....where we need one "GOD" and not be undecided about 2 QBs.
As Chicken posted in the Mickey Guidry thread, a semi-dual-QB system served us very well.
We should return to this.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 11:56 pm to olomgamer231
quote:
olomgamer231
Never gloat, because you got roasted in this thread
Posted on 10/14/09 at 7:39 pm to olomgamer231
Olom, thank you for this post! 
I'm pretty tired of people thinking that Lee is an improvement over Jefferson.
I'm pretty tired of people thinking that Lee is an improvement over Jefferson.
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