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Jarrett Lee and Matthew Stafford
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:38 pm
Matthew Stafford had 7 TDs 13 ints and 12 sacks with 256 attempts his freshman year..Jarrett Lee had 13 TDs 16 ints and 8 sacks with 269 attempts his freshman year. FWIW JL had a slightly better completion percentage than Stafford, and if you take away the pick 6's their isnt much difference in the 2.
If this has already been brought up, i apologize. I keep seeing people use JLs performance from last year to justify keeping him benched THIS YEAR. All i am saying is young players DO improve, and theres nothing wrong with giving JL a series or 2 in each game. Stafford turned out OK in the end.
If this has already been brought up, i apologize. I keep seeing people use JLs performance from last year to justify keeping him benched THIS YEAR. All i am saying is young players DO improve, and theres nothing wrong with giving JL a series or 2 in each game. Stafford turned out OK in the end.
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Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:39 pm to magicman0001
Most here agree with you.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:41 pm to magicman0001
quote:Yeah, and if you turned all of JJ's sacks into completions, he would be Tim Tebow.
and if you take away the pick 6's
I'm all for giving JL some snaps, but I think your argument needs some work.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:44 pm to magicman0001
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Matthew Stafford had 7 TDs 13 ints and 12 sacks with 256 attempts his freshman year..Jarrett Lee had 13 TDs 16 ints and 8 sacks with 269 attempts his redshirt freshman year.
There is a bit of a difference there. Also, Stafford was a much higher rated QB coming out of high school. Lee could turn it around like Stafford did, but it will be harder for him considering he doesn't have the same physical tools.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:44 pm to magicman0001
quote:
"This TEAM is out of order...this CONFERENCE is out of order...the whole f**kin' BCS is out of order!"
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:46 pm to magicman0001
We got JJ who WILL NOT throw it.
And we got JL who WILL NOT get hit.
And we got both of em drifting back into a five step drop with no route development against some of the best defenses in college football.
Nothing could go wrong here..............could it?
And we got JL who WILL NOT get hit.
And we got both of em drifting back into a five step drop with no route development against some of the best defenses in college football.
Nothing could go wrong here..............could it?
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:48 pm to magicman0001
I think at this point, now that JJ is getting some experience...why not throw both our qb's and RS into the mix? This couldn't do anything but help, and I'm almost sure it will open up opportunities with the run. JJ, JL and RS have their individual strengths..lets' use them!
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:48 pm to magicman0001
Wow, do you enjoy comparing apples and oranges? First, Stafford was a TR FR while Pick 6 was a RS FR. Second, Stafford's bad portion of the year was the first part of the season...he actually improved...Pick 6 showed no noticeable improvement...in fact as the competition got tougher, teams started returning his passes for TDs. Next!!
Posted on 10/13/09 at 5:01 pm to magicman0001
The only reason people are so hard on Jarrett Lee are purely the Pick 6's and the Alabama game. If we win the Bama game, he's still starting QB. If the team makes a little effort on just 2 or 3 of his pick 6's, the kid wouldn't be so hated. He actually did play well at times. Hell, against UGA, he threw a Pick 6 on the first play, and then came right back and drove us down for a TD.
Just imagine what he'd be like if he actually had a QB coach worth a shite instead of Crowton.
Just imagine what he'd be like if he actually had a QB coach worth a shite instead of Crowton.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 5:45 pm to magicman0001
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If this has already been brought up, i apologize. I keep seeing people use JLs performance from last year to justify keeping him benched THIS YEAR.
I've been making the Stafford/Bradford/ McCoy "freshman to sophmore" improvement comparison for the past month. Some people are just so completely fricking close minded and biased in support for their LSU football gods (LM,JJ) that they're totally blind to what's really happening and refuse to face reality.
Way past time to see if JL has made any improvement. I don't give a shite what he did last season; I want to see what he can do in 2009. He should have gotten half the snaps in the OOC games and PT in the SEC games. Now it's going to be tough just throwing him in there. Has he even played except for coming in to throw the TD pass against Vanderbilt?. And, don't even get me started on the lack of PT for LSMWW1. (Lord Savior Messiah Water Walker 1) Ridiculous player management........
Posted on 10/13/09 at 6:46 pm to magicman0001
Shut up.
Posted on 10/14/09 at 12:07 am to magicman0001
(Stafford turned out OK in the end)
Preseason # 1 last year and went down the drain!! (Being the #1 pick in draft did'nt get georgia the bcs title) But i hope the some how les could give JJ and JL playing time!
Preseason # 1 last year and went down the drain!! (Being the #1 pick in draft did'nt get georgia the bcs title) But i hope the some how les could give JJ and JL playing time!
Posted on 10/15/09 at 12:48 am to magicman0001
First time posting here. I've seen this topic here a few times, and felt the need to add something to it.
Stafford was a true freshman not a redshirt. Big difference. He arrived early but was co-3rd string through fall practice. He was thrown in the fire on the second game against South Carolina without the benefit of first team reps.
Stafford didn't throw any pick 6s his freshman year. In fact, he only threw two pick 6s the whole time he was UGA. One against UF in 2007 and another against GT in 2008.
You need to do some research also. Stafford threw only one INT on his last three games. It was against Virginia Tech in the CFA Bowl, and VT had the #1 defense in the country. Stafford did not throw any INTs against AUB, who was ranked #5, or against GT.
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Matthew Stafford had 7 TDs 13 ints and 12 sacks with 256 attempts his freshman year..Jarrett Lee had 13 TDs 16 ints and 8 sacks with 269 attempts his freshman year. FWIW JL had a slightly better completion percentage than Stafford, and if you take away the pick 6's their isnt much difference in the 2.
Stafford was a true freshman not a redshirt. Big difference. He arrived early but was co-3rd string through fall practice. He was thrown in the fire on the second game against South Carolina without the benefit of first team reps.
Stafford didn't throw any pick 6s his freshman year. In fact, he only threw two pick 6s the whole time he was UGA. One against UF in 2007 and another against GT in 2008.
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If you want to point something out, at least do your research to support your claims. While its true Stafford was a true freshman that started school early like Shep did here, he struggled with ints. throughout the year. His last 2 games had an int in each (including the bowl game)
You need to do some research also. Stafford threw only one INT on his last three games. It was against Virginia Tech in the CFA Bowl, and VT had the #1 defense in the country. Stafford did not throw any INTs against AUB, who was ranked #5, or against GT.
Posted on 10/15/09 at 7:52 am to magicman0001
You are comparing apples and oranges again. You are trying to compare a true freshman (Stafford) with a RS Freshman (JL) with one full season, a spring camp, and two full fall camps under this belt.
If you want to make this comparison, compare it to Stafford's second year with the team (like JL's). The comparison will make JL look like crap.
If you want to make this comparison, compare it to Stafford's second year with the team (like JL's). The comparison will make JL look like crap.
Posted on 10/15/09 at 9:19 am to magicman0001
Matthew Stafford (with INT's) >>>>>>>> Joe Cox
Jarrett Lee (with INT's and pick 6's) <<<<<<<<<<<< Jordan Jefferson
Jarrett Lee (with INT's and pick 6's) <<<<<<<<<<<< Jordan Jefferson
Posted on 10/15/09 at 9:21 am to magicman0001
Matthew Stafford (with INT's) >>>>>>>> Joe Cox
Jarrett Lee (with INT's and pick 6's) <<<<<<<<<<<< Jordan Jefferson
UGA had no other options except Stafford. LSU has plenty of other options besides Lee.
Jarrett Lee (with INT's and pick 6's) <<<<<<<<<<<< Jordan Jefferson
UGA had no other options except Stafford. LSU has plenty of other options besides Lee.
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