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The BCS
Posted on 7/8/09 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 7/8/09 at 2:41 pm
I agree that it probably needs tweeking somewhat. However I think UTAH Senator Orrin Hatch needs to keep his arse out of it. We DO NOT need the government running something else. I personally am sick and tired of the government feeling the necessity to stick their nose in every aspect of our lives.
LINK TO THE HEARING
Quotes from today's hearings
God help us. Before long we will be watching Idaho State vs Buffalo for the D1 championship.
LINK TO THE HEARING
Quotes from today's hearings
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the BCS continues to place nearly half of all the schools in college football at a competitive and, perhaps more importantly, a financial disadvantage. These disadvantages are not the result of fair competition, but of the inherent structural inequities of the BCS system. For these reasons, I believe today’s hearing is necessary.
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Our focus should therefore be on comparing the current system with the standards required by our nation’s antitrust laws. Personally, I believe there are enough antitrust problems with the current BCS system that we’ll have more than enough material to cover in the course of this hearing.
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Worse still, under the current BCS regime, each of the six privileged conferences is guaranteed to receive a large share of the BCS revenue to distribute among their member schools. The remaining five conferences, which include nearly half of all the teams in Division I, all share a much smaller portion of the BCS revenue, even if one of their teams is fortunate enough to play their way into a BCS game. Over the lifetime of the BCS, the preferred conferences have received nearly 90 percent of the total revenues.
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Take last year for example. In 2008, two teams, Utah and Boise State, met the qualifications for an automatic BCS berth, but, under the rules, only one of them, Utah, was invited to play in a BCS game. Furthermore, four teams, Utah, Boise State, Texas Christian, and Brigham Young, finished the season ranked higher in the BCS’s own standings than at least one of the teams that received an automatic bid.
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It is my understanding that, even as Congress has focused its attention on the system, the BCS appears to be attempting to strong-arm those in a weaker bargaining position into signing a new agreement by July 9, many months before the current contract expires. Given the widespread public criticism of the current system and its obvious flaws with regard to competition, I had hoped that, going forward, we’d see a greater willingness to adapt on the part of the BCS. However, that does not appear to be the case.
God help us. Before long we will be watching Idaho State vs Buffalo for the D1 championship.
This post was edited on 7/8/09 at 4:54 pm
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Posted on 7/8/09 at 2:48 pm to Run DMC
Everything he's stating is true. It does places other Div 1 schools at a disadvantage b/c smaller schools have absolutely no shot at a championship in Div 1 football. However, the gov't should stay out of it though.
The reason why the gov't is sticking their hands in it is b/c of money. The smaller schools are complaining b/c they are not given the same opportunity to win championships and to earn the big money as larger schools are given.
I understand his reasoning, but the gov't have bigger battles on their hands right now to deal with.
The reason why the gov't is sticking their hands in it is b/c of money. The smaller schools are complaining b/c they are not given the same opportunity to win championships and to earn the big money as larger schools are given.
I understand his reasoning, but the gov't have bigger battles on their hands right now to deal with.
Posted on 7/8/09 at 3:03 pm to Run DMC
Yep, and that's exactly why it shouldn't be tweaked the way they suggest.
Posted on 7/8/09 at 3:06 pm to Run DMC
Their is one sure way for the major powers of college football to stop the bitching from these schools. These botton feeders suck on the teets of the big schools by getting big pay days for playing road games (aka rent a wins). Its easy to kill these schools, quit playing them. I know it would require the big schools to join together and agree for everyone not to schedule them, but thats how you do it. Have the major conferences agree to only play each other out of conference.
Posted on 7/8/09 at 3:10 pm to Run DMC
I think the government getting involved is obviously a bad idea. The BCS is not perfect, but it is better than the old system where the top teams may have not even matched up with one another in the bowls. They may have a better chance with the BCS than they would have playing in the Humnaitarian Bowl as in the old system. Although, BYU did it in the 80's.
Posted on 7/8/09 at 3:40 pm to Run DMC
Typical how government thinks. You have the have & the have-nots. So the government steps in and gives to the have-not taking it from the haves.
Maybe these teams need to look at playing the big boys. LSU is always looking for someone to play in a only home situation.
Maybe these teams need to look at playing the big boys. LSU is always looking for someone to play in a only home situation.
This post was edited on 7/8/09 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 7/8/09 at 4:03 pm to Run DMC
Qualifications Based Playoff is the most flawless proposed method to date, IMO. Especially xiv's proposed model and the variants that can extend from it.
The BCS's current system sucks. It needs more than just a small tweak; it needs an overhaul.
The BCS's current system sucks. It needs more than just a small tweak; it needs an overhaul.
Posted on 7/8/09 at 4:04 pm to Run DMC
Even being from a BCS conference that has produced f national champions in the first 11 years of its existence, it is still completely fricked up and I think does most definitely violate antri-trust laws. Hopefully this is the final impetus for a playoff system. There finally are cracks in the unity of the Presidents.
Posted on 7/8/09 at 7:10 pm to Run DMC
The name of the game, is who makes the most noise and has influence. Tulane didn't, Auburn didn't, but Utah did. Have always agreed that the BCS needed an overhall. Eapecially after LSU got demoted in 2003 when AP handed NC to USC. Since when in the same light did LSU get even mentioned as the NC when USC is involved? Its a travesty in Division I not to have a playoff. At least Baseball is well deserved and earned. That is more than I can say for Division I football.
Posted on 7/8/09 at 8:32 pm to Run DMC
Posted on 7/9/09 at 8:52 am to Run DMC
Easy solution, decrease the season to 10 or 11 games. Take the Champion of each conference in Div-1 and have a playoff system. This includes all the small schools and will force Notre Dame to get in a conference.
Posted on 7/9/09 at 9:36 am to Run DMC
A restatement of points already made with a suggestion:
o The BCS is a cartel designed to maximize profits for themselves. The actions of Scott Cowen mentioned above placed a crack in the system to open opportunities for nonBCS teams.
o The problem for the nonBCS teams is that the majority don't believe that they are playing a challenging enough schedule to get the benefit of the doubt. This could be addressed by either improving their conference affiliations (e.g. The best teams from the Mountain West and WAC get together and form a new conf) or they significantly upgrade their OOC schedules.
o I think the focus should be on upgrading the OOC schedules. Teams that really want to prove themselves should schedule at least 3 BCS teams with 2 being extremely likely to be top 25 type teams. This would probably be pretty difficult to accomplish without some external help.
o A recent trend in scheduling has been the late scheduling of compelling games, neutral site and otherwise for TV purposes. In any given year, there are only a handful of these top flight nonBCS schools. I think the focus should be on getting the BCS conferences making their top teams available for this kind of scheduling. An independent committee could be set up to identify the top nonBCS and BCS teams for the following year and schedule the matchups. Lots of details to work out, but if there was a will it could be worked out. Certainly a win for nonBCS teams and all fans. BCS teams wouldn't necessarily see it as a win because they have more to lose with a loss though.
o The BCS is a cartel designed to maximize profits for themselves. The actions of Scott Cowen mentioned above placed a crack in the system to open opportunities for nonBCS teams.
o The problem for the nonBCS teams is that the majority don't believe that they are playing a challenging enough schedule to get the benefit of the doubt. This could be addressed by either improving their conference affiliations (e.g. The best teams from the Mountain West and WAC get together and form a new conf) or they significantly upgrade their OOC schedules.
o I think the focus should be on upgrading the OOC schedules. Teams that really want to prove themselves should schedule at least 3 BCS teams with 2 being extremely likely to be top 25 type teams. This would probably be pretty difficult to accomplish without some external help.
o A recent trend in scheduling has been the late scheduling of compelling games, neutral site and otherwise for TV purposes. In any given year, there are only a handful of these top flight nonBCS schools. I think the focus should be on getting the BCS conferences making their top teams available for this kind of scheduling. An independent committee could be set up to identify the top nonBCS and BCS teams for the following year and schedule the matchups. Lots of details to work out, but if there was a will it could be worked out. Certainly a win for nonBCS teams and all fans. BCS teams wouldn't necessarily see it as a win because they have more to lose with a loss though.
Posted on 7/9/09 at 9:41 am to Run DMC
This is NOT the NFL. In the NFL violent hits are flagged and a playoff ensues.
College football violent hits are NOT flagged and the whole season is a playoff
College football violent hits are NOT flagged and the whole season is a playoff
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