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What is the best way to save for retirement?

Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:06 am
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
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Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:06 am
My wife is starting her career (Vet), she will be working for a private clinic that doesn't have a plan. What would be the best way to start saving for retirement?
Posted by guttata
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Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:15 am to
Put it under her matress
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
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Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:18 am to
Thanks for the totally worthless piece of advice.
Posted by Parliament
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Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:25 am to
ROTH IRA
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
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Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:26 am to
Are there limits on the Roth IRA?
Posted by MileHigh
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Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:37 am to
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Put it under her matress

Is this a new OT moniker? REplace PIITB? PIUHM?

as for roth IRAs, there are limits. You are limited in your yearly contributions ($5000 as I recall). Its post taxes, so you don't save there. But the payout is theoretically tax free but I wouldn't bank on that.

Also, you can't contribute if you make over X amount. I am not sure what the 2008 number is, but I am pretty sure it was $159k last year. This might be an issue if she is a vet.

Now in return for this, will she do a discounted cleaning on my dog's teeth. That shite is expensive!
Posted by amsterdam
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Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:39 am to
The Roth if her income allows it. If she is 1099 instead of a W2 she can look at several business IRA's such as a Simple or SEP. If she doesnt qualify for a Roth, and cannot do a business IRA, then her last choice will be the Traditional IRA.

Despite your views on if now is a good time to invest, she should still start a retirement plan. Once the plan is created you can make specific investment decisions from that point forward.

As far as how much to put in it depends on your family budget. If you have no idea how to figure it, then start with 3% and go from there
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:40 am to
Is the $159k, for just her salary or a combination of both of ours? It won't be a problem right now, but in the future it could be.

If you bring your dog to Dallas, I'm sure we can work something out.
Posted by amsterdam
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Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:40 am to
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But the payout is theoretically tax free but I wouldn't bank on that.


By definition the principal and interest are tax free.
Posted by Colonel Hapablap
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Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:42 am to
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By definition the principal and interest are tax free.

until they change the law in order to steal more money. I think that's what he's referring to.
Posted by MileHigh
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Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:43 am to
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Is the $159k, for just her salary or a combination of both of ours? It won't be a problem right now, but in the future it could be.


If you file jointly, both.
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If you bring your dog to Dallas, I'm sure we can work something out.

Well it might be worth it. We are looking at over 500 after the cleaning and some other dental work. fricking absurd. I don't go to the dentist, why should my dog?
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By definition the principal and interest are tax free.

with massive budget deficits, pols will be drooling at any new revenue opportunity. Right now its tax free, but they could easily change that.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
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Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:43 am to
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2008 number is, but I am pretty sure it was $159k last year.


is that AGI?
Posted by amsterdam
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Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:45 am to
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until they change the law in order to steal more money. I think that's what he's referring to.


Not gonna happen. If they wanted to change things, they would grandfather in existing accounts. They just added a Roth 401k a few years ago. The popularity of the Roth IMO makes it safe from politicians at this point. Then again President Hussien has a penchant for screwing financial things up so far so you never know...
Posted by MileHigh
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Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:45 am to
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is that AGI?

I think so. You would have to look it up to find out.

this should be a non-issue for you, I would assume you and your money making, soap throwing away wife, clears that on her own.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:46 am to
With the way the market is dropping, either precious metals or CD's.
Posted by MileHigh
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Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:47 am to
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Not gonna happen.

It very well could happen. When interest rates on treasuries go to 10-15%, then lots of options will be on the table to get our deficit under control.
Posted by Colonel Hapablap
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Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:47 am to
which do you think they'll do first, tax Roths or whack social security? I don't know anyone my age (30) who expects to see a dime of SS. If they're eventually going to kill that, I can't say that taxing roths is impossible.
Posted by MileHigh
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Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:50 am to
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which do you think they'll do first, tax Roths or whack social security? I don't know anyone my age (30) who expects to see a dime of SS. If they're eventually going to kill that, I can't say that taxing roths is impossible.

Something is going to have to happen in the next 5 years. Its just unsustainable.

They could always raise the marginal rates on everyone else. But they will need to worry about capital flight (intellectual capital too) if they exceed the marginal tax rates in europe/canada.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:52 am to
I just hit 40 and don't expect to see a dime of SS. It's just another reason I'm glad I got a state job.
Posted by Colonel Hapablap
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Posted on 3/3/09 at 9:53 am to
IMO the first thing that's going to happen will be massive military cuts with most of our overseas presence coming back home. Which will, of course, enable a global war to break out.
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