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James Harrison play - - NFL Rules That Make No Sense

Posted on 2/2/09 at 10:10 am
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
6913 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 10:10 am
Why is that play any different from roughing the kicker? The kick is away when the punter is hit, yet the offensive team gets to keep possession. Both are personal fouls, and imo the Harrison play is ten times worse than most roughing the kicker plays where guys just get too close to the kicker when going for the ball.

Another one...forward progress. Gives much too much advantage to the offensive player. Why do they give the runner so much time to get out of a tackle. The safety last night should have come two plays sooner.

Finally, and this one always kills me. A punt hits a member of the punting team at the 10 and rolls to the 1 where it is downed. They move it back to the 10. But if it hits someone at the 2 and goes into the end zone...it goes to the 20...totally inconsistent.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423481 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 10:12 am to
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.forward progress. Gives much too much advantage to the offensive player

i fricking hate forward progress for this reason
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76551 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 10:12 am to
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Why is that play any different from roughing the kicker? The kick is away when the punter is hit, yet the offensive team gets to keep possession. Both are personal fouls, and imo the Harrison play is ten times worse than most roughing the kicker plays where guys just get too close to the kicker when going for the ball.



They are trying to protect the defenseless kicker and theoretically it is still within the transfer of possession because the kick has not been completed.

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Another one...forward progress. Gives much too much advantage to the offensive player. Why do they give the runner so much time to get out of a tackle. The safety last night should have come two plays sooner.


That was not a safety and shouldn't have IMO.



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Finally, and this one always kills me. A punt hits a member of the punting team at the 10 and rolls to the 1 where it is downed. They move it back to the 10. But if it hits someone at the 2 and goes into the end zone...it goes to the 20...totally inconsistent.


Really? Come on now.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41243 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 10:14 am to
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Why is that play any different from roughing the kicker? The kick is away when the punter is hit, yet the offensive team gets to keep possession.


Change of possession does not occur until the ball passes the line of scrimmage.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59132 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 10:16 am to
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orward progress. Gives much too much advantage to the offensive player


Too many rules give too much advantage to the offense.

PI as a spot foul is ridiculous.

Crap they called it last night and in the SD Indy game, I think its defensive holding or something, its a5 yd penalty, but an automatic 1st down. wtf?
Posted by busbeepbeep
When will then be now?
Member since Jan 2004
18367 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 10:17 am to
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A punt hits a member of the punting team at the 10 and rolls to the 1 where it is downed. They move it back to the 10.


They must call it like this otherwise players could bat the ball down the field to create a longer punt.

Posted by TBubba
Not sure
Member since Sep 2007
1146 posts
Posted on 2/3/09 at 8:41 am to
When that personal foul happened on Harrison, they said they would move the ball half the distance to the goal. The punt was downed on the one and I could have sworn the ball was still on the after the incompletion on 1st down. Maybe someone with Tivo can confirm this for me.
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
40828 posts
Posted on 2/4/09 at 9:18 am to
If you are deep in your own territory and commit a half-the-distance offensive penalty, they should also move the first down marker out. (false start on your own one should move the first down marker out to the 15 instead of penalizing the violators 18 inches.)
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