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I would think that UF and LSU would be the top 2. The early part of the decade with the Zooker probably hurts Florida. But with 4 NC between them, it would be tough to argue

USC has two titles regardless of how much people here would like to believe they don't. If LSU was screwed as badly as USC was in 03, we'd bitch and say we had two titles as well.

Since 2002, these are LSU and USC's records:

LSU USC
02 8-5 11-2
03 13-1 12-1
04 9-3 13-0
05 11-2 12-1
06 11-2 11-2
07 12-2 11-2
08 8-5 12-1

We're 72-20
They're 82-9

We have two SEC titles
They have 7 Pac-10 titles

We have two NC's
They have two NC's

They have three Heisman winners
We have zero Heisman winners

You can bring up conference strength or whatever, but that all goes out the window when they have a substantially better resume.

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Posted by rmaia

New Orleans

Member since Mar 2008

960 posts

Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:51 am to AlexLSU

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You can bring up conference strength or whatever, but that all goes out the window when they have a substantially better resume.

did you even think before you posted that?

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Posted by yungtigr

Dallas, TX

Member since Jan 2005

3820 posts

Posted on 1/9/09 at 12:52 am to AlexLSU

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Since 2002, these are LSU and USC's records:

you just threw out an SEC title for LSU and two shitty seasons for USC.

If you take the WHOLE DECADE it's alot closer. But yeah, its USC

Then Fla and LSU are about equal.

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Posted by Cinci Tiger

Ohio

Member since Jan 2008

593 posts

Posted on 1/9/09 at 8:49 am to AlexLSU

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USC has two titles regardless of how much people here would like to believe they don't

USC has only one

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LSU USC
02 8-5 11-2
03 13-1 12-1
04 9-3 13-0
05 11-2 12-1
06 11-2 11-2
07 12-2 11-2
08 8-5 12-1

USC plays an easier conference

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They have three Heisman winners
We have zero Heisman winners

Heismans are a biased trophy which generally favors the Big & Pack 10

CONCLUSION USC doesn't figure AT ALL

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Posted by King Joey

Just south of the DC/US border

Member since Mar 2004

12507 posts

Posted on 1/9/09 at 9:57 am to AlexLSU

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You can bring up conference strength or whatever, but that all goes out the window when they have a substantially better resume.

Then Concord De La Salle has both of us beat, with way more wins and titles than either LSU or SC (since strength of schedule is irrelevant).

LSU and UF are the contenders, and it is close enough to dead even that next season will almost certainly decide it (as mentioned before, this is assuming a 2000-2009 decade; if we go 2001-2010, then the next two years will decide it).

If SC has another great season and wins another National Championship, then they rise to create a 3 way tie.

I don't know why something as inane and absurd as either the AP poll or the even more pointlessly subjective Heisman would be considered in a debate about strenght of programs. If we're going that route, then Brian Boitano was the most dominant program of the '90s (or whenever the hell he skated).