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re: How did we NOT win at least ONE NC with this guy??

Posted on 1/4/09 at 6:25 pm to
Posted by DaSaltyTiger
Alexandria/Pineville, LA area
Member since Dec 2004
4689 posts
Posted on 1/4/09 at 6:25 pm to
Two things: First, one person does not make a team. There was little and no team chemistry. What winning they did do, they did in spite of themselves. There was plenty of talent there, but there was also the primadonna effect.

Second, Dale Brown was good at coaching underdogs, but seemed to have difficulty coaching talent and molding it into a team.

There was a lot of rumbling back at that time about Shaq's step-father being somewhat of an interference with Brown, but I can't back that up so it has to remain rumor.
Posted by HoopsFan
Member since Dec 2008
423 posts
Posted on 1/4/09 at 6:26 pm to
I forgot how well he could move back then! Incredibly athletic. Imagine if he had bothered to stay in shape all of these years in the NBA.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/4/09 at 6:27 pm to
Dale Brown was a great recruiter and great with the media but his coaching went downhill later in his career.
Posted by oak71
Mesa, AZ
Member since Jun 2008
2580 posts
Posted on 1/4/09 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

he said he was until he looked down the court and saw Dale (something to that effect, don't remember the exact quote).


Then he said he knew they were OK.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14544 posts
Posted on 1/4/09 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

Dale Brown was a great recruiter and great with the media but his coaching went downhill later in his career.


Dale pretty much quit his last three years after he lost Livingston and let the program deteriorate from top to bottom and in every way even before probation (which didn't take affect until Brady's second year).

I never really liked the guy for many reasons (some best left unsaid), but his teams gave me memories that I'll always cherish, so for that I've forgiven.

Posted by Ugozuna
FL
Member since Jan 2009
531 posts
Posted on 1/4/09 at 6:33 pm to
"I was worried about losing until I looked down the floor and saw Dale Brown. Then I knew we had a chance."
-Commenting on that stormy 1987 game with LSU
Posted by oak71
Mesa, AZ
Member since Jun 2008
2580 posts
Posted on 1/4/09 at 6:47 pm to
quote:

"I was worried about losing until I looked down the floor and saw Dale Brown. Then I knew we had a chance."
-Commenting on that stormy 1987 game with LSU


There you go...
Posted by andouille
A table near a waiter.
Member since Dec 2004
10726 posts
Posted on 1/4/09 at 6:53 pm to
Shaq was usually not fouled, he was assaulted, remember the Arkansas game? The SEC should have stepped in, but they didn't.

And all the negatives you read above about Dale are mostly true.
Posted by Ugozuna
FL
Member since Jan 2009
531 posts
Posted on 1/4/09 at 6:54 pm to
My fondest memories were listening to LSU basketball games on radio and watching Dale's coaches show on sunday nights - great times.
Posted by oak71
Mesa, AZ
Member since Jun 2008
2580 posts
Posted on 1/4/09 at 6:54 pm to
He was also molested by Tennessee in the conference tournament. It was ridiculous.
Posted by ShrSteamer
Shreveport, LA
Member since Feb 2006
257 posts
Posted on 1/4/09 at 6:56 pm to
They were fun to watch. I think we scored over 100 pts in one game and lost. One thing I remember though is no one but CJ could hit a free throw to save their life.
Posted by oak71
Mesa, AZ
Member since Jun 2008
2580 posts
Posted on 1/4/09 at 6:59 pm to
Not to mention the Loyola Marymount game. 107-105. I have never seen a college game like that. Thats a lot of scoring for only 40 minutes.
Posted by hiveredtech
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Dec 2008
201 posts
Posted on 1/4/09 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

yeah i remember that GT team, there was one other guard - weren't they the 3 amigos or something - and a pretty good guy at forward - Cremins had a good team and run during that time.


Brian Oliver was the other guard...mainly played European ball after a brief stint with the Hawks...one year maybe.

It was the Lethal Weapon 3...the Three Amigos would represent our current basketball team!
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12503 posts
Posted on 1/4/09 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

What was even more amazing was he played with star point guard Chris Jackson
He only played one season with Jackson, and Shaq was not even a shadow of his future self offensively as a true freshman. His defense was simply unpolished, but his offense was clumsy at best.

Had Jackson stayed one more year and played with the Sophomore Shaq, I don't think even Dale Brown could have screwed that one up.

Posted by Ugozuna
FL
Member since Jan 2009
531 posts
Posted on 1/4/09 at 7:20 pm to
Brian Oliver was the other guard...mainly played European ball after a brief stint with the Hawks...one year maybe.

It was the Lethal Weapon 3...the Three Amigos would represent our current basketball team!



those guys were definitely lethal! Final Four that year -

John Salley was there in the mid-80's? who else was on that team with him? i can't remember
Posted by bayareatiger
*Corndog West* Fremont, Cali
Member since Mar 2004
149 posts
Posted on 1/4/09 at 7:21 pm to
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Not to mention the Loyola Marymount game. 107-105. I have never seen a college game like that. Thats a lot of scoring for only 40 minutes.

We beat UNLV 107-105 on Blanton's last second trey bomb from the corner. A week later the Loyola game ended up 148-141 we win in OT. THAT'S a lot of points for a college hoops game.
This post was edited on 1/4/09 at 7:30 pm
Posted by hiveredtech
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Dec 2008
201 posts
Posted on 1/4/09 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

John Salley was there in the mid-80's? who else was on that team with him? i can't remember


John Salley had Mark Price with him.

The role players with them were Bruce Dalrymple and Yvon Joseph (the Haitian Sensation...got him off the Haitian Olympic volleyball team).
Posted by Ugozuna
FL
Member since Jan 2009
531 posts
Posted on 1/4/09 at 7:25 pm to
man, how could I forget Mark Price? Dalrymple too...

Cremins could recruit
Posted by slimedog
Member since Sep 2006
981 posts
Posted on 1/4/09 at 7:56 pm to
quote:

the Loyola Marymount game


I still remember how amazed I was with this game. I didn't even know who LSU was at the time (being a Yankee and Syracuse fan) but I was a college bball fan and saw this game. Couldn't believe that the whole game pretty much consisted of running down the floor and shooting on both sides. Also remember Hank Gathers and Bo Kimble on LMU. I have a copy of the game somewhere on VHS that was replayed several years ago when they ran a series of LSU related games and "Everybody's All American"
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
20014 posts
Posted on 1/4/09 at 8:06 pm to
We had Shaq, Stanley Roberts and Chris Jackson all on the same team one year and we still couldn't.
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