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re: United Methodist Church votes to allow gay marriage and gay clergy

Posted on 5/2/24 at 11:34 am to
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 5/2/24 at 11:34 am to
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Ah, the No true Scotsman fallacy.
Actually no. I was correcting his understanding of what sola scriptura applies to. It's a doctrine fundamentally about authority for Christians. When a congregation or denomination makes some other thing a higher authority than the Scriptures in terms of determining doctrine, then they are not adhering to sola scriptura. This is not a "no true Scotsman" fallacy because I'm operating off of a definitional understanding of the doctrine.

If a professing Christian is claiming that the Bible as their highest authority commands them to support these things, then that's a different conversation about hermeneutics.

Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
910 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 11:47 am to
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When a congregation or denomination makes some other thing a higher authority than the Scriptures in terms of determining doctrine, then they are not adhering to sola scriptura. This is not a "no true Scotsman" fallacy


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If a professing Christian is claiming that the Bible as their highest authority commands them to support these things, then that's a different conversation about hermeneutics.


The UMC is making these decisions based on how it's leaders interpret scripture.

In other words, they are allowing publicly practicing homosexuals to be ordained and married within the church based on what they think scripture teaches.

However, according to you, no true adherent of Sola Scriptura would interpret scripture in such a way as to support these recent doctrines of the UMC.

That is quite literally the No true Scotsman fallacy.
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