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Maybe I’m cynical in my late 30s, but I think we’ve long since crossed the cultural Rubicon. Americans have become far too stupid, lazy, and entitled to understand or even care about what’s happening here.

I'm in my 40's and over the last 5 years or so I have made about half a dozen trips to Europe. I have a similar attitude as you. I know Europe is no utopia and many of the large cities/countries face the same problems we have here- wokeness, social issues etc.

But to spend a week in Italy, Greece, Ireland et al, and then come home and see the people we deal with on a daily basis is so disheartening.

Whenever I see a video of a George Floyd protest, or a bunch of thots shutting down a street to twerk and do burnouts- I tell my wife "We didn't see that in Ireland did we??"

Japan is on our list as a country to visit soon and I am looking forward to the cleanliness, order, and efficiency it is known for.

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Posted by Naked Bootleg

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Posted on 4/29/24 at 8:23 am to slinger1317

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But to spend a week in Italy, Greece, Ireland et al, and then come home and see the people we deal with on a daily basis is so disheartening.

Japan is on our list as a country to visit soon and I am looking forward to the cleanliness, order, and efficiency it is known for.

You'll be blown away with what you experience in Japan. But you'll also experience that same disheartening feeling - for me it's more like embarrassment - when you return from Japan.

I live in OK, there are tons of fats and knuckledraggers here. The first time I returned home from a week in Japan I drove from the airport directly to a bar / club to meet some friends. The drive there was bad enough - trash along the highway, people driving like idiots. But walking into the bar was like reverse cultural shock. It just cemented the thought that we could learn a lot from the Japanese.

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Posted by ibldprplgld

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Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:17 am to slinger1317

Yup — we just got back from St. Martin, and our takeaway was that it was so enjoyable talking and getting to know the locals (many of whom were black).

They don’t share the outlook on life black Americans have — and many even called black Americans out for it. They’re totally different: hardworking, kind in word and deed, positive about life, they both love and have pride in their island (both French and Dutch sides). One of the black bartenders we got to know said she detests black Americans and avoids them if she can.

Of course the feel good was destroyed as soon as we landed in MIA and were immediately greeted by you know what.

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