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re: Tucker Carlson has divided conservative social media with his take on the atomic bomb
Posted on 4/21/24 at 7:43 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 4/21/24 at 7:43 pm to RollTide1987
If we hadn't have dropped the bombs, eventually someone would have. Better us than them. The world has been somewhat stable ever since.
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Posted on 4/21/24 at 7:45 pm to thermal9221
You hate America commie
Posted on 4/21/24 at 7:45 pm to RollTide1987
his quote is "if you are arguing it's a good thing".
it most certainly isn't / wasn't a good thing. war and acts of war are never a "good thing".
Truman was burdened with a heavy decision. But it was war and he made the proper one.
I for one will certainly not hold him to a modern day purity test like many in our country do to people that lived in the past.
it most certainly isn't / wasn't a good thing. war and acts of war are never a "good thing".
Truman was burdened with a heavy decision. But it was war and he made the proper one.
I for one will certainly not hold him to a modern day purity test like many in our country do to people that lived in the past.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 7:47 pm to Damone
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...some still think the US had to drop the bomb(s) to get Japan to capitulate.
Very telling you used "bomb(s)" there.
They didn't capitulate after the first one, did they?
Maybe a few sanctions and a blockade would have done the trick, though.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 7:48 pm to RollTide1987
Japan fricked around and then Japan found out
Posted on 4/21/24 at 7:48 pm to Rebel
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his quote is "if you are arguing it's a good thing".
No he clearly said if you defend dropping the bombs you are evil.
He is pushing commie propaganda
Posted on 4/21/24 at 7:51 pm to Figgy
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The fire bombings of Tokyo and Dresden were worse than the nukes.
And Dresden wasn’t really even necessary
Posted on 4/21/24 at 7:53 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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If we hadn't have dropped the bombs, eventually someone would have. Better us than them. The world has been somewhat stable ever since.
True. That move showed the world how destructive and dangerous nukes were. Had we not dropped them, who knows what would have happened when they eventually were used. Luckily our use simply ended a war with an enemy that couldn’t retaliate with nukes. And the world saw what they could do
Posted on 4/21/24 at 7:53 pm to RollTide1987
Tucker is wrong here. He usually has good points but sadly the Ole Miss American history course must be lacking.
Dropping the bombs was the correct call. It saved more civilians than what would have happened if we had invaded or if we fire bombed all the remaining cities.
Dropping the bombs was the correct call. It saved more civilians than what would have happened if we had invaded or if we fire bombed all the remaining cities.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 7:55 pm to Azkiger
quote:We just needed to send in the social workers!
Maybe a few sanctions and a blockade would have done the trick, though.
Tucker is wrong on this one.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 7:55 pm to Damone
Dreden was far worse and yet no one really gets on the US and Britain for that. Damage and death was just as comparable
Posted on 4/21/24 at 7:55 pm to Adam Banks
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No he clearly said if you defend dropping the bombs you are evil.
well let's see.
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"My 'side' has spent the last 80 years defending the dropping of nuclear bombs on civilians...like, are you joking? If you find yourself arguing that it's a good thing to drop nuclear weapons on people, then you are evil."
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that it's a good thing
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good thing
i agree. it wasn't good. it was a necessary evil.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 7:57 pm to RollTide1987
It was a horrible thing, but it gave the world proof of the weapon. Someone would have dropped one in a military action at some point. If it happens after WWII in the Cold War, the world goes down. Proof of the weapon in a war deterred it from ever being used again and deterred any huge superpower conventional wars.
This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 4/21/24 at 7:57 pm to Azkiger
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Very telling you used "bomb(s)" there. They didn't capitulate after the first one, did they? Maybe a few sanctions and a blockade would have done the trick, though.
This.
And don’t forgot Dec 7, 1941 was unprovoked.
Japan is the quintessential FAFO.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 7:58 pm to MemphisGuy
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It wasn't a "good thing", but it was a very necessary thing. Saving millions of lives and put an end to the war. Who could possibly argue with that?
Exactly. I'd like to hear Tucker explain what should have been done differently. Prolonging the war with a mainland invasion that causes countless more deaths seems far more "evil" to me.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 7:58 pm to StringedInstruments
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But wasn’t the other option to engage in a prolonged combat operation that would lead to the deaths of many American soldiers, the perpetual bombing of Japanese infrastructure, and horrific pain for many Japanese citizens?
And the Russians starting a western front and having to split post war Japan like Germany.
This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 4/21/24 at 7:59 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
Most think that we did it to punish the Japanese. Yes it was that but it was also to send a message to the Russians who had just invaded Manchuria and Sakhalin Island. The Russians were rolling through at a torrid pace as the Japanese Army was pretty much in full collapse.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:00 pm to KiwiHead
Bomber Harris has taken some criticism lately for the way England bombed Germany late in the war.
I thinks it’s complete liberal nonsense to judge anyone in history especially war time by our current standards.
I thinks it’s complete liberal nonsense to judge anyone in history especially war time by our current standards.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:01 pm to nvasil1
Yea if we kept fire bombing then more people die, if we invade more US lives and jap lives are lost
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:05 pm to Figgy
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The fire bombings of Tokyo and Dresden were worse than the nukes.
No one ever talks about this.
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