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re: Imagine if we lived in a world where Electric Vehicles were the norm

Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:48 am to
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6831 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:48 am to
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I think so. I think if you asked the average laymen “hey, what do you think causes more damage to a road: one 80k pound semi or fifty 5k pound SUVs, the percentage of the population who would intuit the correct answer without prior knowledge would approach zero

you must be right judging by rebs response to my chart

"200 POUNDS DIFFERENT! YOU PROVED THE POINT"

This post was edited on 4/20/24 at 9:49 am
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27492 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:49 am to
frick that. How will I listen to Siegen Ln being taken over for 45 min at 3am by LaTrell and his buddies?
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27497 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:49 am to
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almost quarter the damage done to the road.


This stupidity has to stop.

Electric vehicles are retarded unless we are all solar and nuclear.

But the whole "damage to the road" argument is dumb.

Either they have softer tites that wear out too fast or they are heavier than my truck with harder tires that last forever. You can't use both arguments.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6831 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:50 am to
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frick that. How will I listen to Siegen Ln being taken over for 45 min at 3am by LaTrell and his buddies?

they'll make EVs that simulate the sound of a screaming exhaust, no worries

in fact they already do something (sorta) similar to avoid noisy tires in the cabin
Posted by Joe_Dirte
Southwest LA
Member since Feb 2019
650 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:51 am to
More weight will make them worse than they are now
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27497 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:52 am to
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adding a bunch of heavier EVs to them


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deltaland


You are actually smarter than this.

Stop.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6831 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:52 am to
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This stupidity has to stop.

Electric vehicles are retarded unless we are all solar and nuclear.

But the whole "damage to the road" argument is dumb.

Either they have softer tites that wear out too fast or they are heavier than my truck with harder tires that last forever. You can't use both arguments.

It seems to be a law of nature that stupid has to combat stupid.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64819 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:54 am to
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You act like you care about the impact EVs will have on the road but honestly you just hate EVs and weight is your dumb attempt to act like that is your concern.


As usual, you make stupid assumptions that are divorced from anything resembling reality. When it comes to EVs, I’m at best ambivalent. I unlike you, I look at EVs from a practical standpoint. Simply put, they are not a practice option for the average American. Simply put, they lack the range and hauling capability to be practical replacement for ICE vehicles. And the drawbacks in their production, namely the massive strip mining requirements to produce them, coupled with the large amount of petrochemicals required in their production, more than offsets any supposed environmental benefits from their use.

Couple these facts with the fact our power grid could not come close to sustaining reliance on EVs by large numbers of Americans (see California in any summertime as a prime example ), and then you can see my reluctance to drink from the Kool-Aid of EVs being the savior of our planet.

You on the other hand base your support of EVs solely on political ideology. The Democrat Party propaganda apparatus tells you EVs are good. And therefore, in your indoctrinated and feeble mind, they’re a miracle. You’re no better than those wretched Germans who, even as the Allies closed in on Germany in 1945, still believed Hitler when he told them that his “Wunderwaffe” was going to turn the tide any moment now.

In short, I base my option on EVs in logic based on fact while you base your option on ideology.

Kindly go frick off you stupid little twat.
This post was edited on 4/20/24 at 10:27 am
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27497 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:55 am to
If it's any consolation, the idiot I find myself agreeing with here once argued with me that cast iron was denser, more consistent, and faster reacting.

He couldn't grasp that he was arguing against himself.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27497 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:57 am to
Agreed.

I also just like the performance potential

The new lithium Ranger my buddy had outperforms the shite out of my ICE.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6831 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:58 am to
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You on the other hand base your support of EVs solely on political ideology.

I support EVs like I support all technology.

I do not support government forcing EVs, but that's not what the OP was discussing, he was talking about EV weight damaging roads.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34454 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:00 am to
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Are we getting all our roads fixed before its all electric? Cause our roads are a worn down pot hole galore mess.


This depends upon where you live.

Why should someone that drives on nice roads want them to be destroyed so Tardzana doesn’t off herself?
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64753 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:02 am to
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you must be right judging by rebs response to my chart

"200 POUNDS DIFFERENT! YOU PROVED THE POINT"



It's adorable watching you think you're having a winning argument

There's another concern posted a few times in this thread that has to do with curb weight....but you keep ignoring it.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6831 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:06 am to
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tractors operating 24/7 most of the year with not a single charging station within 80 miles

safe to say it will be a long time to never until they can make an EV one of these. Even if they could, you can't just haul an EV charger to the job site every day.

This post was edited on 4/20/24 at 10:10 am
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12659 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:28 am to
Passenger vehicles are not tearing up roads. This is such a fricking retarded point. If you actually care about road damage you should look at CMV running overweight.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27497 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:32 am to
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safe to say it will be a long time to never until they can make an EV one of these. Even if they could, you can't just haul an EV charger to the job site every day.


Man I hate to break it to you, I have an electric road grader from the 60s.

It's a whole lot bigger than that little deere
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
15876 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:36 am to
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If you actually care about road damage


I don’t
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6831 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:36 am to
Well at least you can drive a road grader to the charger. Offroad equipment might not make it back to civilization for months at a time
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12659 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:39 am to
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I don’t

Good. Because you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:59 am to
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Interesting perception but kinda true

It's not interesting because it's not true.
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half the price

an ICE vehicle being introduced would be more expensive than the EVs simply due to to low volume production of the new technology compared to the high volume production of the existing EVs.
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A vehicle that can be refueled in 1/10th of the time

Where? I can't just fill up at the house while I sleep? You mean you actually have to go somewhere to get fuel? They're going to have to build out all these "filling stations"? Where is all of this fuel going to come from? Are we going to have to invest in a huge network of "refineries"? Does this also mean we're going to have to spend way more on our "defense" budget to protect global supplies of "fuel" to keep the cost to the consumer down?

The electrical grid would have been developed with the EVs. It wouldn't be anything at all like if we suddenly dumped 100 million EVs on the roads in one fell swoop tomorrow. Instead of, "The electrical grid infrastructure isn't ready for that kind of demand" it would be, "The fuel distribution infrastructure isn't ready for that kind of demand." People would wonder if it was worth all of the expense to: Develop the infrastructure required to protect the raw product sources globally, extract the raw product, refine the raw product into fuel, and develop the distribution infrastructure for the fuel.
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It does not rely on the environmentally damaging use of non-renewable rare earth elements to power it

That's a wash at best.

I really can't figure out why people are so divided on this issue except that it must simply be drawing political lines in the sand. It's obvious that we will end up with both, ICEVs and EVs. People just need to unbunch their panties, and pick which is best suited for them.
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