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re: Are steroids just now a free game and not interfered with any longer?

Posted on 4/11/24 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 12:12 pm to
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just liek if i go to the doctor and want mounjaro...i should be able to get it, no matter how little im overweight. insurance shouldnt cover it, but should be able to get that and any peptide i want. same with hgh


This logic advocates for the free use of every substance, so long as you deem that your interpretation sees that it shouldn't meet the criteria for a controlled substance. Why even have doctors prescribing medicine at that point? It seems like you're arguing that any drug that isn't a controlled substance, you should have free reign to get if you so desire it.

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I am a grown arse adult and me taking steroids does not in any way affect others


I don't see how you're coming to this conclusion. Everything you do in life affects others, especially taking a family of drugs that have long been established to cause considerable mood swings.

The matter is you come on this board and give advice as if you're the arbiter of what drugs/routines are good and which are bad because you've decided to research. It's commendable, but some of the stuff you tell people on here with this matter of fact attitude can be frightening. It's one thing to chime in with your take on weight loss, it's another to tell people to disregard what their doctor says, something I've seen you do multiple times.

We have federal agencies and medical advisory boards for a reason. Are they perfect? No. Are they corrupt? Yeah. Are they better than one libertarian giving advice to people on a message board? Yeah, I'd say so. And honestly, even if you're a doctor, telling people to outright listen to you and tell their doctors xyz is insanity.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31761 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:00 pm to
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This logic advocates for the free use of every substance, so long as you deem that your interpretation sees that it shouldn't meet the criteria for a controlled substance. Why even have doctors prescribing medicine at that point? It seems like you're arguing that any drug that isn't a controlled substance, you should have free reign to get if you so desire it.



ummm yea. why have doctors? so they can tell me what is wrong and if certain medicines can cause comlications


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I don't see how you're coming to this conclusion. Everything you do in life affects others, especially taking a family of drugs that have long been established to cause considerable mood swings.


have they? you sure? because roid rage is a myth except with tren and maybe 1 or 2 others

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The matter is you come on this board and give advice as if you're the arbiter of what drugs/routines are good and which are bad because you've decided to research. It's commendable, but some of the stuff you tell people on here with this matter of fact attitude can be frightening. It's one thing to chime in with your take on weight loss, it's another to tell people to disregard what their doctor says, something I've seen you do multiple times.



most general doctors are not very smart when it comes to treating most things and you should seek a specialist. and 99% of doctors are dumb AF when it comes to overall preventative health, lifting and diet. most are nothing more than pill pushers at this point. not all but most

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We have federal agencies and medical advisory boards for a reason. Are they perfect? No. Are they corrupt? Yeah. Are they better than one libertarian giving advice to people on a message board? Yeah, I'd say so. And honestly, even if you're a doctor, telling people to outright listen to you and tell their doctors xyz is insanity.


ummm the same boards say they should not be illegal.


and telling someone to not take no as an answer to having blood work done is crazy? i didnt tell him not to listen to the doctor, i told him to tell the doctor he is getting his hormones tested, like it or not

and guess what...im right on that. if you feel you need a certain test done, dont take no as an answer. many doctors are stubborn AF and dont listen and stuck in thier ways. sorry if that offends you like doctors are gods or something



and someone taking steroids does not effect the lifes of others and thinking it does shows complete ignorance on the subject. and yea they should be uncontrolled. didnt say i should be able to just go get whatever script i want but i shouldnt get a felony if i have them either.


Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31761 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:05 pm to
oh and i dont trust any federal agency and i have made it very very clear throughout the years that I am a libertarian and believe all drugs should be decriminalized.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:21 pm to
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I don't see how you're coming to this conclusion. Everything you do in life affects others, especially taking a family of drugs that have long been established to cause considerable mood swings.


This is a myth. Tren might be the only one that causes mood swings.

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This logic advocates for the free use of every substance, so long as you deem that your interpretation sees that it shouldn't meet the criteria for a controlled substance


There are quite a few other countries that operate like this and they are in better health than the US.
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 1:28 pm
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