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re: Need advice to lose 40-50lbs

Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:21 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:21 am to
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Your sample size of 1 doesn’t qualify you to speak on this with any authority whatsoever. “Because I did it, you can do it” is a completely ignorant position to take intellectually, but it has been the old school mentality that has slowed progress with the stigma of this disease. Ignorant. Be better than that. You are clearly smarter than that. If you can swallow enough of your pride and evolve beyond it, you could be a legitimate force for good with the time you put into a public message forum like this. “I beat cancer by doing yoga so you can, too.” Right? “That single anastomosis duodeno–ileal bypass with sleeve gastrectomy worked for me so it will work for everyone else.” Also would be ignorant. Every patient is different. You try to shove everyone into a singular box based on a faulty premise.

You keep picking this hill to die on, but it’s not a debate. You are factually wrong. The AMA classified it as a disease a decade ago. A decade. You need to evolve.


i have evolved adn the ama does all kinds of stupid shite

1) its a disease if he has a legit medical disorder in the form of a metabolic disorder

if not, the laws of thermodynamics apply, period

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The issue here, sevens, is pride. You feel I am injuring yours somehow, and you get triggered. And then you react by attacking me. It’s sad, honestly. I’m not taking anything away from what you were able to accomplish with will power. Congrats. Truly happy for you and glad you are living a healthier life. Don’t take it personally. It’s not. Your position lacks a critical understanding of the part of human behavior that is(to varying degrees) driven by chemicals(or chemical imbalances) and not choices or free will. That is where you veer off the correct path and no longer align with science.


not even close, ihas nothing to do with pride, has nothing to do with assigning a moralistic view to weight loss

in fact im all for the use of medicine to help people reach their goals. I love better living through science. ifpeopel have food noise, take the glp1

i dont like calling it a disease as it implies that one magically caught a virus that made them fat. it implies that nobody is to blame for being obese and that is simply not true. The laws of thermodynamics do not change, the physical act of how you gain and lose weight do not change person to person

i fully acknowledge that mentally, its different for everyone. and thats where the medicines can help. hormonally it can help too.

but dont call it a disease because it removes the resposibility from the patient. if you want to compare to cancer.....if a person smokes 3 packs a day for 20 years and gets lung cancer, sure its sad, but they did that to themselves. so thing with obesity.

all for using medicines, all for getting blood work done to check and see where we can optimize hormones, metabolic levels etc

but its still not a disease.

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