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re: I quit doing cardio

Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:26 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:26 am to
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As a former collegiate strength coach, one of the more frustrating but also fascinating aspects of human adaptation is that they are highly individualistic and also adaptations are never in a vacuum. If even the most learned doctor tells me something so specific, I will be highly skeptical of what they say afterwards.

For myself, ive found that working incline walking into rest times for my lifts have made a huge difference. 30 minutes of walking 5-6 times a week in addition to 5x calisthenics has been incredible for my physique. Its my sweet spot...at my age in my 30s. Who knows how I would have responded in my 20s etc.

The key is trial and error. I know this is cliche but its also everyone's best path for success. Add an input for minimum 2 weeks...see what output you get

**Take-home: A great starting point to cardio is incline walking on treadmill or just terrained walking outside. Start with 20 min/day. You CAN do this during rest times for intense lifts if the walking intensity is low enough but youll have to monitor your performance in your subsequent sets


exactly

and IMO unless you are under 15% bodyfat measured by DEXA and at a FFMI of 22ish, consistently walk 8k steps and can do the following

1 mile- 9min
press-135
bench-200
squat-315
deadlift- 350
pushups- 40
chins- 10 dead hang

then dont really care about all the rest because havent trained consistently enough to worry about vo2 max this or that longevity exercise
Posted by NewOrleansBlend
Member since Mar 2008
1032 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:54 am to
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IMO unless you are under 15% bodyfat measured by DEXA and at a FFMI of 22ish, consistently walk 8k steps and can do the following 1 mile- 9min press-135 bench-200 squat-315 deadlift- 350 pushups- 40 chins- 10 dead hang
then dont really care about all the rest because havent trained consistently enough to worry about vo2 max this or that longevity exercise


The data for longevity specifically suggest otherwise. You keep saying that the mortality benefit for strength is similar to cardiorespiratory fitness, but the numbers suggest an exponential benefit to fitness relative to strength, a benefit that is very unlikely to ever be equal even with all of confounding variables that influence both of the numbers.

Also, the person you replied to (a high level strength coach) is arguing for low intensity steady state cardio, the thing you are arguing against.

I too prefer to strength train, as most of us on this forum do, but you can’t ignore the data to fit personal preferences
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
2205 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:52 pm to
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1 mile- 9min press-135 bench-200 squat-315 deadlift- 350 pushups- 40 chins- 10 dead hang


Id say this is a pretty fair measure of well rounded fitness IMO. Anyone who can do all these things is gonna be a highly capable man(at least physically)
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