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Supreme Court unanimously rules against government in No Fly List case

Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:59 am
Posted by Orange Rock
Member since Mar 2024
297 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:59 am
Starting to see more of these unanimous rulings.

I feel that whenever the FBI loses, America wins.

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The Supreme Court unanimously ruled Tuesday that a man’s challenge to his former placement on the No Fly List can move forward, finding the government failed to show his lawsuit is moot.

Yonas Fikre, a U.S. citizen who previously resided in Sudan, claimed his placement on the list was unlawful and sued the FBI.

The government later removed him from the list and signaled it was unlikely he would be readded. It then contended Fikre’s lawsuit was moot as a result and should be tossed.

The government warned that not declaring lawsuits like Fikre’s moot at the onset could require the government to disclose classified information. The Supreme Court rejected that assertion, enabling Fikre’s case to move ahead.
“Necessarily, our judgment is a provisional one,” Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote in the court’s opinion.

“Just because the government has not yet demonstrated that Mr. Fikre’s case is moot does not mean it will never be able to do so,” the conservative justice continued. “This case comes to us in a preliminary posture, framed only by uncontested factual allegations and a terse declaration. As the case unfolds, the complaint’s allegations will be tested rather than taken as true, and different facts may emerge that may call for a different conclusion.”


Supreme Court unanimously rules against government in No Fly List case
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37716 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:12 pm to
I'm torn about this one.

On one hand, the government ALWAYS abuses it's power.

On the other hand, no fly lists are bullshite these days. What is someone gonna do? shite in the aisles? Pitch a fit and throw peanuts?

No fly lists are there for one reason and one reason only. For inconvenience and embarrassment purposes.

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80415 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:16 pm to
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shite in the aisles?


Wasn't there a woman who pissed in the aisle recently?
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15704 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:18 pm to
There needs to be accountability with these intelligence agencies. Like wtf man.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26622 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:26 pm to
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Starting to see more of these unanimous rulings.

A majority of the court’s decisions in recent years are 9-0 or 8-1.

Unanimous opinions don’t get plastered on the news for weeks though.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26622 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:28 pm to
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No fly lists are there for one reason and one reason only. For inconvenience and embarrassment purposes.

Good. People who cause ruckus or can’t behave in public shouldn’t be in a metal tube 30,000 feet in the air with 200 normal people.

I’m all for inconveniencing and embarrassing people who do stupid and obnoxious or aggressive shite on airplanes.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Lawya 1
Member since Feb 2024
49 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:37 pm to
I would love to know what the criteria is to be placed on that list? Anybody...
Posted by doublecutter
Hear & Their
Member since Oct 2003
6597 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 1:56 pm to
I know someone who was on the NFL and supposedly the reason was because he has the exact same name as a IRA member that has been wanted for years but is still on the lam. He was taking steps to get his name removed, but I don't know the outcome of that as I haven't spoke to him in a couple of years.
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
457 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 1:58 pm to
The airlines can make a list. Not the gment
Posted by Von
Wichita Falls, TX
Member since Feb 2019
1925 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 2:07 pm to
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The government warned that not declaring lawsuits like Fikre’s moot at the onset could require the government to disclose classified information. The Supreme Court rejected that assertion,

It's good to see the Court not automatically folding at the mention of the word "classified". The gov has been using that crap to hide embarrassing shite forever.

Surprised the FBI didn't toss in "sources and methods" or "national security".
Posted by Lawya 1
Member since Feb 2024
49 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:39 am to
Absolutely there should be!
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