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re: The Truth about George Floyd's Death

Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:30 pm to
Please, that is way too much common sense.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23426 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:33 pm to
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the jury got it right in this case.


So what evidence was there to come back with a first degree murder guilty verdict? Being a defense lawyer, how do you justify 1st degree murder, which means this death was premeditated, whenever ALL of the evidence points to the contrary? Can’t wait to hear your thoughts, because I think you’re full of shite. Not only intellectually dishonest, I think you’re a piece of shite to come to this conclusion and I hope you really aren’t a defense lawyer because if that’s true then that’s pathetic. I wouldn’t pay you to do my landscaping with this closed minded, biased way of thinking.
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 1:37 pm
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30432 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:36 pm to
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There is no video evidence that Floyd even tried to get up

My man, such is the precise argument for the lack of need to have him pinned down in that way - the officer bears the responsibility of keeping abreast of all relevant circumstances in the moment: the existence or not of ongoing risk of harm to public or self, the ongoing level of resistance of the perp, and yes the health condition of the perp. As you noted there clearly was no ongoing resistance, thus leads to the fact that there’s no ongoing risk of harm to others, but the officer did or should have known of the perilous state of the perp’s condition of health. Chauvin just let his frustration with society’s misfits and it completely clouded what should have been much, much better judgment on his part.

I realize this is a hated viewpoint, but I simply wouldn’t go out on the unpopular limb if I weren’t certain it’s right.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
2728 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:38 pm to


This post was edited on 3/21/24 at 12:12 pm
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30432 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:42 pm to
I don’t think they did convict of first degree. Are you sure that’s correct?
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23426 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:42 pm to
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My man, such is the precise argument for the lack of need to have him pinned down in that way - the officer bears the responsibility of keeping abreast of all relevant circumstances in the moment: the existence or not of ongoing risk of harm to public or self, the ongoing level of resistance of the perp, and yes the health condition of the perp. As you noted there clearly was no ongoing resistance, thus leads to the fact that there’s no ongoing risk of harm to others, but the officer did or should have known of the perilous state of the perp’s condition of health. Chauvin just let his frustration with society’s misfits and it completely clouded what should have been much, much better judgment on his part.


Such a stupid viewpoint. You are really showing your arse here. It took a handful of officers 15-20 minutes to even get Floyd to the point where he was pinned on the ground. They had him in the squad car, where he jumped onto the ground. That’s right, he put HIMSELF on the ground by throwing himself out of the police cruiser. These officers tried everything they could do to secure an erratic drugged out giant. Your lack of critical thinking really shines a light on our current plight when you look at how our justice system is being run by people who think biased just like you. To you, Chauvin is guilty because he felt like he had to kneel on his back to keep him secure and nothing in the previous 15-20 minutes would suggest he would all of a sudden start cooperating. Like stated before, maybe you should pick a different profession because you are obviously bad at your job.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23426 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:43 pm to
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I don’t think they did convict of first degree. Are you sure that’s correct?


It was second and third degree murder. Still horseshite. You would have an argument for manslaughter based on the facts of the case. And they ignored many facts of the case to come to the conclusion they wanted like the fact that Chauvin was trained to put his knee of the back to secure.
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 1:49 pm
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30432 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:53 pm to
No, I’m not showing my arse. It’s more of a case of you not being aware of some of the basic aspects of the way criminal law works. Criminal litigation is viewed in terms of very minute moment to moment situations and actions and circumstances. By moment to moment I mean minute to minute, or sometimes even lesser intervals. In this situation the sole relevant window in time was the situation on the ground at the specific window of time when Floyd was on the ground, on his stomach, when as we saw Chauvin did the knee thing. What occurred 20 minutes before that, even ten or less minutes before that has no actual bearing on the relevant period of time involving the specific actions alleged to be violations of the law (now beyond alleged of course). I’m not simply trying to be contrarian or just wanting to pick a fight. Like I said, I would most definitely not say any of it unless I knew it to be completely correct.
Posted by tiger789
on the bayou
Member since Dec 2008
790 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 2:00 pm to










paging Dex Morgan
paging Dex Morgan
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19976 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 2:11 pm to
Minnesota v. Derek Chauvin et al: The Prosecution’s Dirty Little Secret
Medical examiner’s memorandum on Floyd’s toxicology report proves cause of death to be drug overdose, not murder.



https://spectator.org/minnesota-v-derek-chauvin-et-al-the-prosecutions-dirty-little-secret/

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19976 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 2:17 pm to
Searching for the Floyd toxicology report produced dozens of MSM reports saying Floyd was murdered with none seeing the obvious.
Posted by Monty Brewster
Member since Feb 2024
232 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 2:24 pm to
The whole thing was so stupid and basically demolished any possibility of there ever being racial harmony in America again. A loser who made no effort to improve his life after countless second third fourth chances, who preyed on a pregnant woman, no effort to get help for his addiction, this is who black America looks up to.

Most people still think he died of asphyxiation even though the court case said otherwise, and that he was saying he couldn’t breathe well before he had a knee on the neck. And, even if that all weren’t true, he’s George Floyd. A menace to society.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69203 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 3:44 pm to
I don’t need any other video or commentary.

The fricking drug addict criminal plugged fentanyl up his arse. He tells the cops this.

He overdosed. End of story.

Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 3:58 pm to
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george floyd


Useless TPOS drug bum that’s thankfully erased from this earth.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37804 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 4:11 pm to
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The whole thing was so stupid and basically demolished any possibility of there ever being racial harmony in America again. A loser who made no effort to improve his life after countless second third fourth chances, who preyed on a pregnant woman, no effort to get help for his addiction, this is who black America looks up to.





Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53814 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 8:06 am to
where is a link to this new video footage?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
15193 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 8:08 am to
He died because he was overdosing. frick anyone that puts blame on the cop.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53814 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 8:10 am to
The Streets that are named after Floyd and his bronze statue, I think must come down now that Black History month is over
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
4608 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 11:26 am to
The best part of the show was when Glenn called out of Obama and Holder for the race hustlers they are.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19976 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 2:18 pm to
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He died because he was overdosing. frick anyone that puts blame on the cop.


He had ODed in a prior arrest because he swallowed his stash, but the cop saved him and an ambulance arrived quickly.

Police everywhere are less likely to do what needs to be done because of the whole Floyd mess and the injustices done to the police arresting him. That where the real toll is taking place.
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