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The Truth about George Floyd's Death

Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:07 pm
Posted by Oabafu
Wisconsin
Member since Jan 2022
717 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:07 pm
Very interesting commentary by two intelligent people regarding George Floyd and his death in view of the latest released body cam footage:

The Truth about George Floyd's Death

Unfortunately, no one will believe them, or the body cam footage, no matter what. They'll still say it was racially motivated by a mad dog killer cop.

As they state, he was railroaded for fear of significantly elevated racial riots with a different verdict.

Posted by BayouBaw84
Thibodaux
Member since Oct 2016
1193 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:15 pm to
It didn’t come soon enough.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96551 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:21 pm to
Whenever they have one of these deaths where it really is the cop’s fault, it doesn’t get the response the poverty pimps want with regards to riots.


That guy who got killed in his apartment in Houston comes to mind. He was a white collar guy who died because a cop got drunk, went to the wrong apartment, and shot him thinking he was an intruder in HER apartment.

Don’t hear much about that case because everyone piled onto the cop for doing it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124298 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:24 pm to
Lots of truth packed in the comments.

quote:

@wylieecoyote
1 month ago (edited)
I am a retired police officer and have been spreading the footage that was leaked through the UK (because Minneapolis PD would not release it) and pointed out the "I cant breathe" statements while Floyd was standing up. I received a huge amount of hate and civilian friends defriended me for logically pointing this out.
I also attended FLETC (Federal Law Enforcement Training Center) and local police academies and was taught the shoulder pin. I sent copies of the training materials showing the techniques to media and the general public, but no media would publish it, despite the police chief saying it was not taught. I used it and it works to keep a combative person from being hurt.
The whole trial is a sham and these officers who risked their lives every day were sent to jail due to political pressure.
If this can happen to police, how can anyone expect a fair trial.
I have risked my life for people of all skin colors (I don't believe in race) and weep for this miscarriage of justice. People have died in furtherance of the Floyd lie.
I volunteered to work poor and troubled communities not to arrest the suspects, but to help the victims. If police don't have support of the communities, death and destruction will follow.
Thank you for adding your voices, not for police or black community, but for truth, where ever it is.

As Booker T Washington once said, people are keeping racism alive because it pays.


quote:

s a retired Former Paramedic and Trauma RN, George Floyd was dead the moment he swallowed the drugs he had on him. He was dying before he was ever restrained. The only thing that could have saved him, was the immediate administration of Naloxone, an Opioid Antagonist in sufficient quantity to prevent his overdose. Even then, he may have still required CardioRespiratory Support far beyond the capablilities of a Law Enforcement Officer in the field.
Chauvin didn't kill Floyd, Floyd himself had already done that. Do I think he maintained the restraint longer than prudence would dictate? Yes and No. It would depend on how the officer was trained, and I suspect reassessing the restraint wasn't part of, or comprehensive enough when the Minneapolis PD taught the technique.
Why did EMS take so long to get there is a question that's never been answered to my satisfaction.
Law Enforcement is generally taught Basic First Aid, and that's about the extent of it. They typically are not trained to the level of an EMT-Basic, and rarely to the level of an EMT-P or Paramedic. I don't suggest that they be trained to that level, but many municipalities have begun training Officers to recognize, assess, and treat potential Overdoses. Naloxone can be delivered by a nasal delivery system forgoing the need to train an officer how to inject the first line treatment for Opioid OD. I cannot find the information, thus strongly suspet Minneapolis PD hasn't begun this new practice.
Once a overdose patient stops breathing, even CPR is of little if any effect because of the presence of the Opioid. 3 to 4 minutes without oxygenation, and that's it. It's over.


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@BuickDoc
2 months ago
"I can't breathe!", said George Floyd. I have heard at least 20 patients say the same thing after I gave them fentanyl prior to surgery. I am an Anesthesiologist. In 1980 the standard technique for Cardiac Anesthesia, anesthesia for heart surgery, was high dose fentanyl, ie 50 mcg per Kg body weight. Advantage: did not depress the heart. Disadvantage, and reason we no longer use the technique: required 3 days on a ventilator post-op.
If given too fast, the patient would develop a STIFF CHEST, and say, "I can't breathe!" As the chest wall stiffens, the sensation of not breathing becomes overwhelming and panic sets in, as we saw with Floyd.
Current Anesthesiologists have never experienced this side effect of fentanyl. Unless you were practicing in 1980, you would have never experienced this problem because we never give high dose fentanyl today.
Remember, Floyd was talking up until his death. You cannot talk if you are not breathing. The Policemen did not suffocate Floyd. Floyd died of a stiff chest, ie a reduction cardiac of output due to constriction of chest wall muscles preventing blood flow back to the heart. That is: Floyd died of a fentanyl overdose.
Posted by Oabafu
Wisconsin
Member since Jan 2022
717 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

people are keeping racism alive because it pays.


If THAT ain't the stark honest truth!

Play to the 'race card', it sells everything, including people's souls........
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23400 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

As they state, he was railroaded for fear of significantly elevated racial riots with a different verdict.


A couple of jurists said as much. They were afraid for their lives. Meanwhile a man who was just doing his job trying to arrest a giant erratic dude on drugs is wasting away for the rest of his life in prison and it makes me sick.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62940 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

A couple of jurists said as much.

Biden himself said the night before the verdict was released that they better do the right thing.

That's some extreme pressure when the President of the United States is telling you to convict.
Just imagine what Biden's FBI and DOJ would have done to some jurists had they acquitted.
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
1426 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

It didn’t come soon enough.


Unfortunately, even if this came out in 2020 it would not made a difference. This was a propaganda opp that could not be passed up.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
3019 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:48 pm to
When the officer pinned Floyd down, that was an approved method by their department at the time.
It also did not restrict his air flow.

Had George Floyd not resisted, he most likely would have faced distress at the precinct from OD.
His resisting only sped his outcome up.

He OD’ed
Posted by Torqued Pork
Malvern
Member since Sep 2020
3687 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:52 pm to
The mainstream media will ignore it like they ignored the "hands up don't shoot" lie with Michael Brown.

The left and race hustlers have to have the saintly reputation of their martyrs kept intact.
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8422 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:59 pm to
Officer Derek Chauvin is an innocent man.

Free Derek Chauvin NOW!
Posted by Oabafu
Wisconsin
Member since Jan 2022
717 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

This was a propaganda opp that could not be passed up.


Sad....but true.

Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29231 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by Oabafu
Wisconsin
Member since Jan 2022
717 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:05 pm to
Bawahahahahaha

Too funny, too sad, but too true!



Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
2456 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:08 pm to
He OD. Everyone knows. The jury knew. They were cherry picked. And biased. But, They also had to convict because their names were leaked. The entire george floyd saga is an embarrassment
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30378 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:08 pm to
Coming from someone who pays the bills by coming up with arguments and defenses for those accused, and not pipsqueak shite, we’re talking your murders, your rapes, your robberies and the occasional kidnapping, the jury got it right in this case. I’d still have gotten him off though. **Pun not intended.
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 1:16 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56528 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:20 pm to
Another thing that gets overlooked is that because Floyd had just swallowed a fistful of fentanyl pills, whatever his toxicity level was at the time of his death, it was still rapidly rising.
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20160 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:23 pm to
Very important footnote!!!

That video came out 2 months ago, but they’ve retracted a bit from that position.

Here’s the latest video from McWhorter and Loury from 2 WEEKS ago.

[quote]LINK ]

The pro-Floyd is a Saint crowd got to them. They didn’t want that heat of being on the outside of the black brotherhood.

They believe that the “anti-Floyd was killed video” was intentionally misleading as well, and have basically retracted to their original position. They think that if

My position remains the same. Floyd died of an overdose and stupidity, and
Chauvin’s actions were negligent but not criminally negligent. I think Chauvin was trying to follow the protocol as he knew it, and was over focused on that instead of using common sense.
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 1:25 pm
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10526 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:26 pm to
Something I've never heard anyone say, but I think about it every time it comes up:

The photos show Chauvin had him pinned down with his knee while a couple of others assisted but NOT with their full weight pressing down on Floyd. Do you know how big George Floyd was? If Floyd were truly struggling to breath, pure reflex and adrenaline would have kicked in, and he would easily have thrown off the 2-3 officers. There is no video evidence that Floyd even tried to get up. If he couldn't breathe, he would have been wiggling and struggling to move Chauvin's knee from his neck.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48602 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:30 pm to
The only comments necessary here are observational. First, the vaunted USA is currently being conquered by the International Left. I might argue that it is already conquered. In fact, many aspects of our govt and our culture are indeed completely in the control of the Radical Left.

One main truth about life under a Leftist Regime is that there is no Objective Truth. Objective Truth is exterminated under a Leftist Regime. All Truth is that which is propagated by the Leftist Staat or State.

What happened with the incident described in the OP was an example of Der Staat flexing its muscles, showing what it can do, once Objective Truth is exterminated and Der Staat replaces it with its own Truth.

Just a very early example of more that is sure to come, as the Progress of US History de-evolves into Leftist Totalitarianism.
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