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re: Yes McMahon is overachieving a bit and kudo’s to him…

Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1978 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:30 pm to
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Do you McMen


I’m not a McMan. I’m not a Wade fan (anymore). I’m an LSU basketball fan above all else.

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I’m saying RECRUITING is the #1 prerequisite of college sports


I agree with you. I think Wade is most likely the best recruiter of any LSU MBB coach.

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Name the elite talent via portal that’s ready to transfer to LSU


We’ll have to wait until the portal opens up to see.

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This debate between WW & MM is sooo stupid. WW won the SEC , played the NIT, and won 20 games 4 times.


I do think the debate is stupid. Will Wade is inarguably the more successful and better of the two coaches (so far). My issue with wade rhetoric and why I’m critical is because people treat him like a god or like he’s John Wooden when he underachieved relative to the talent he brought in.



Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
3959 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:32 pm to
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I actually went to Hammond for that game

Idk if you realize how sad this is or that this is exactly what everyone is talking about but… it is
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3309 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:36 pm to
We MIGHT be ok. We COULD HAVE been in the NCAA'S every year, and had some deep runs mixed in. Kinda like Scott Drew and Baylor are doing.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28655 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:44 pm to
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Will Wade was the worst cheater in the country in a sport where everyone cheats.


Yes.

It was very foolish of him to not anticipate one of the hundreds of conversations a HC has with the countless "runners", "middle men", would be recorded by the FBI...given the FBI's LONG history of investigating college basketball recruiting.

There is not a single coach in America who could or should have anticipated the ridiculous set of circumstances that led to the release of the wiretap recordings. Circumstances I'm sure the majority of people aren't even aware of because they never cared enough to actually look.

In sum:

A Pittsburgh financial advisor gets busted screwing over his professional athlete clients. The DOJ had the evidence to prosecute him.

In order to save his own arse he suggest becoming an informant in the world of shoe companies and college basketball (neither of which were the target of any complaint or investigations).

The US attorney for the SDNY, who is ALWAYS looking for publicity, decides a "scandal" involving college coaches and major shoe companies is much more scalations than some ham and egg bozo in Pittsburgh. So Blazer then gives up Christian Dawkins. Not because of his involvement with Wade, LSU, or anyone else. But because he is inside the sketchy AAU/shoe company underworld.

Wade (and other coaches) talks to Dawkins about recruits. Something they had done MANY times before all of this with no issues whatsoever. Only this time, Dawkins, unbeknownst to any coach, is under investigation by the FBI/DOJ and recording the conversations.

The DOJ ultimately brings cases against multiple assistant coaches. They have a big press conference announcing how they are going to rock the world of college basketball recruiting.

Wade is not involved...at all.

As the case against Dawkins get closer to trial, his attorney's leak the recordings of Wade to Yahoo. The purpose is to steer opinion towards Dawkins's defense that none of the coaches/schools were "victims". They were willing participants.

The evidence is so irrelevant to the criminals cases that it isn't even allowed to be presented in court.

The cases against the coaches and Dawkins eventually go to trial. The coaches either lose at trial or take plea deals. All of which have minimal criminal sentences.

Despite all of the initial publicity the entire investigation/case was a HUGE dud that does NOTHING to impact college basketball. In fact, paying players becomes "legal" during the pendency.

The entire thing was giant waste of time.
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
349 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:45 pm to
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Idk if you realize how sad this is or that this is exactly what everyone is talking about but… it is


yeah frick me for going to a mcneese southeastern game basketball game in Hammond. I actually went to southeastern as a college freshman before transferring to LSU, and it was nice to see campus again. and I am a college basketball fan, and a will wade fan and a LSU fan and vocal McMahon fan. so frick me for enjoying event attendance around the state.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94922 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:46 pm to
Bitch when he doesn't win, bitch when he does win.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3309 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:47 pm to
Yo moneyg, you make an EXCELLENT point. What makes it so excellent, is the fact that HARDLY ANY COACH (except that ole meanie Will Wade, and just maybe a couple more really nasty coaches) cheat.

The OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of coaches throughout history, especially the ones that win a lot of games, WOULDN'T EVEN DREAM of going anywhere near any situation that would require them to cheat.

I'm so proud of our 2019 national championship football team, because I know there was ZERO CHEATING going on. Yes, we had that small issue with Vadal's pops a few years prior, but he was the only one getting paid, and we nipped that in the bud. Guys like Fournette back then, didn't get ONE DIME in illegal recruiting inticements. Please keep the hot takes coming.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3309 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:54 pm to
Uhhhhhhhhhh, Tennessee just told the NCAA to go fLuck off when hit with an NIL investigation, and a court has already backed them on it. HOW IN THE FLUCK can you not see the NCAA is on life support??????
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
3959 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:54 pm to
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yeah frick me for going to a mcneese southeastern game basketball game in Hammond. I actually went to southeastern as a college freshman before transferring to LSU, and it was nice to see campus again. and I am a college basketball fan, and a will wade fan and a LSU fan and vocal McMahon fan. so frick me for enjoying event attendance around the state.

Honestly, that’s fair.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22426 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:57 pm to
Wade isn’t coming back so quit bringing him up! Either get on the wagon or move a long and go root for another team
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
349 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 1:00 pm to
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Honestly, that’s fair


small arena college hoops is fun. I went to LSU at Nicholls exhibition game a couple years ago and had a great time. the small gym atmosphere is unique. if wade is still at mcneese next year I will probably go to one game there.

I am a huge will wade fan and it was a mistake to fire him, obviously. but I also support McMahon and he has not been given a fair chance by may of the folks here.
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
11446 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 1:18 pm to
Wade isn't coming back..get that through you're head... it was a fun ride and now it's over and there is no point in comparing. McMahon is doing a fiarly solid job of rebuilding
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
1186 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 1:21 pm to
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Sooo how high do they need to finish in recruiting rankings for you to shut up about this?

A hell of a lot higher than 50th the previous year and 31st this year so far in team rankings. Oh, and signing a 5* or a high 4* isn't against NCAA rules the last I checked. I'm not expecting LSU to be up there with UNC, Duke, or KY but a reasonable expectation should be in the 2nd 10 among team recruiting rankings...like maybe 14th for so.
Posted by EdOrgeronsChin
Member since Sep 2020
254 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 1:25 pm to
Right, totally same situation in year 2 as well. I mean who could forget how Wade inherited a program that his predecessor had driven into sanctions due to negligent disregard for ethical coaching practices. Definitely should be compared equally... LOL
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32550 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 2:38 pm to
Another alter..
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12094 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:21 pm to
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You don’t think they are keeping an eye on LSU basketball recruiting right now. They are under a microscope. There’s no frickery going around right now. We can’t score top 50 type talent.


Pure BS. You telling us that all those blue chip players coming to other sports are all of a sudden in love with LSU? $$$$
If Wade had NIL there is an telling how high we would be.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1978 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:57 pm to
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The 2022 team was 15-1 before Pinson blew out his knee.


Boo hoo. I knew someone would mention this.

How many games has Jalen Cook been out with injury? What about Daimion Collins? Carlos Stewart? It’s a moot point.

Losing one player makes tSecond coming of John Wooden Will Wade shite the bed while McMahon is holding his own with damn near half a roster.

Clearly Wade had good Xs and Os and it wasn’t the tremendous IQ of Xavier Pinson that carried that team. He coached the point guards, so clearly if it was all Wade Eric Gaines would have held his own in Pinson’s absence… except he didn’t. Tough.

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The revisionist history about Will Wade is fricking hilarious.


Wasn’t on TD at the time but I’m sure people were pleased going 19-10 with Cam Thomas and being 9-9 in the SEC his fifth year. I’m sure everyone was singing his praises. Would love to see what tRant had to say back then.

If anything the revisionist history is placing him up on some pedestal like he’s a god. He was a good coach, but y’all treat him like he was the GOAT.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 4:11 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
71834 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:58 pm to
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I agree with you. I think Wade is most likely the best recruiter of any LSU MBB coach.



Dale
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
12298 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 4:08 pm to
Stop kissing will wades arse. It’s embarrassing. Move the frick on. It’s not healthy.
Posted by TigerDM
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1614 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 4:24 pm to
You are judging McMahon by the complete wrong standard. His situation, while actually worse, is more comparable to when Brady came in. Between the transfer portal and the NCAA holding major probation over LSU to penalize us for not getting rid of Wade, McMahon has done an amazing job.

Now that the cloud is gone, we actually have a couple of highly rated recruits coming in, plus we can go hard after players in the portal since they won't have our opponents telling them not to come here because we're about to get hit with major probation.
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