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re: What do we see next, S&P 500 at 6000 or 4000?

Posted on 2/7/24 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by TejasHorn
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 3:04 pm to
Inflation isn't a symptom of a downturn. It’s often the opposite.

Personal debt is very high right now, thanks to stagnant wages but also people spending like drunken sailors.

As far as layoffs, the same companies turn around and hire for other divisions if we want to be anecdotal about it. Across the economy as a whole the labor market remains tight with some sector exceptions.

Not trying to say anyone is doing a great job here, but we appear to be more on the upswing of a business cycle than a downswing. As tepid as it may feel.
Posted by Motownsix
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Member since Oct 2022
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 6:28 pm to

quote:

Personal debt is very high right now, thanks to stagnant wages but also people spending like drunken sailors


Consumer CC is something like 3% higher than it was pre-Covid. Wages are up substantially since 2020. Household wealth is at all time high. People are spending as we can see from various industry reports. Retail and services both doing very well. People are obviously very confident about their economic situation despite the anecdotal accounts on the various TD boards that members can’t afford cheez-its, milk, and bread.
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