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re: Greg Abbott releases statement on Texas’ constitutional right to self-defense

Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:47 pm to
Doing a little research, I learned that the Articles of Confederation were actually clearer and used the phrase Invasion "by enemies".

This has lead to people assuming this is the Framers intent within the constitution to define "invasion".

Madison extended invasion to encompass Pirates, leading to some people to believe it clearly extends to cartels.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33807 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:50 pm to
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Madison extended invasion to encompass Pirates, leading to some people to believe it clearly extends to cartels.



Well, it clearly would extend beyond other militaries if it covered pirates.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9456 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

Doing a little research, I learned that the Articles of Confederation were actually clearer and used the phrase Invasion "by enemies".

This has lead to people assuming this is the Framers intent within the constitution to define "invasion".

Madison extended invasion to encompass Pirates, leading to some people to believe it clearly extends to cartels.



Also, it's reasonable to question the intent of people illegally entering ones domain. If the first act they commit upon arriving is illegal, already they are disrespecting the rule of law. Definitely warrants a response to protect ones borders.
No research, just my opinion.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44136 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

Doing a little research, I learned that the Articles of Confederation were actually clearer and used the phrase Invasion "by enemies".

This has lead to people assuming this is the Framers intent within the constitution to define "invasion".

Madison extended invasion to encompass Pirates, leading to some people to believe it clearly extends to cartels.

It’s an interesting, unprecedented situation for sure.

Whomever said earlier in this thread (it may have been you?) that both sides (Texas and fedgov) are working from the US Constitution is correct.

I just don’t happen to believe when they were discussing “invasion,” the FFs ever envisioned hundreds of thousands of people pouring actoss the international border illegally and a bunch of federal employees allowing it to happen—thereby infringing on the rights of the American people.

The answer will ultimately lie in how SCOTUS chooses to interpret all of this.

Unfortunately it’s looking more and more like that isn’t going to work for Texas, hence the impending divorce.
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 3:20 pm
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