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Legal firearm transfer in Louisiana
Posted on 1/23/24 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 1/23/24 at 7:03 pm
I have a weapon that needs to be gifted legally to another person. What are the steps?
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 7:07 pm to TronWall
Just wrap it nice with a bow.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 7:08 pm to TronWall
As long as the other person can legally own firearms, give it to them.
It’s always a good idea to fill out a bill of sale to cya.
It’s always a good idea to fill out a bill of sale to cya.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 7:09 pm to Theduckhunter
It’s a family member. I will get a simple BoS to CmA. Thank you.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 8:06 pm to TronWall
The only legal requirement in Louisiana is that you don't knowingly give or sell the firearm to someone you know can't legally own or possess it. Guns aren't registered here, and NICS isn't a registry despite ATF occasionally trying to use it as one.
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 1/23/24 at 9:19 pm to TronWall
Find the rule that fits your specific situation.
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 9:37 am
Posted on 1/24/24 at 5:54 am to TronWall
Hand it to them
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:01 am to TronWall
I gave some firearms to a relative with a bank background who also has all the licensing/registration/etc. needed for all legal weapons transfer up to the limits.
He said thanks and nothing else needed to see the heirlooms stay in the family. (Turns out dad had grandpa’s 12ga everyone had given up on 45 years ago+)
He said thanks and nothing else needed to see the heirlooms stay in the family. (Turns out dad had grandpa’s 12ga everyone had given up on 45 years ago+)
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:20 pm to 3deadtrolls
quote:This is the objective correct answer.
The only legal requirement in Louisiana is that you don't knowingly give or sell the firearm to someone you know can't legally own or possess it
All the comments about getting a receipt etc just confuse the issue. It's not required, which was the question.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 4:24 pm to Scoob
quote:the bill of sale is a protection for you the seller.... incase that dude uses that gun in a crime... then track it to you... you become the #1 suspect without a BOS.
All the comments about getting a receipt etc just confuse the issue. It's not required, which was the question.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 5:57 pm to CarRamrod
Be safe
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 9:36 am
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:24 pm to zippyputt
quote:
Correction that it appears ALL firearm transfers to an out of state person must go through an FFL
Sure sounds like an impairment of my property without due process.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:14 am to CarRamrod
quote:It's not required.quote:
All the comments about getting a receipt etc just confuse the issue. It's not required, which was the question.
the bill of sale is a protection for you the seller.... incase that dude uses that gun in a crime... then track it to you... you become the #1 suspect without a BOS.
OP asked what the requirements were.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:41 am to Scoob
The main point of my info is protect yourself by knowing the proper rules for your specific situation. OP didn’t specify the domiciles of the folks involved. Be safe everyone.
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 7:42 am
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:09 am to Scoob
quote:i never said it was.. i gave extra information..
It's not required.
quote:tht he did... but no thread would go much further than a post or 2 if the idea was to directly answer the question and go no further.
OP asked what the requirements were.
lighten up baw.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:42 am to CarRamrod
quote:quote:
It's not required.
i never said it was.. i gave extra information..
quote:All goodquote:
OP asked what the requirements were.
tht he did... but no thread would go much further than a post or 2 if the idea was to directly answer the question and go no further.
lighten up baw.
I was pointing it out, because I've seen people posting things online (for example, on thehighroad.com) where they have a real misunderstanding of the law.
Some people ask about how to get a gun registered to someone else after they sell it, believing there IS a registry nationwide. There are those who believe that you need to go to an FFL to transfer to another person, no matter the state.
In Louisiana, there is no registry, and no requirement of having an FFL do a background check or sign off. There is no requirement of a reciept or bill of sale. You may do a face-to-face transfer to anyone that you have no reasonable belief can not own a firearm.
You can sell it for any price, including trading or gifting it (or bartering it for a service). My dad got a 12 gauge pump in return for helping someone with his transmission, and a S&W Model 10 for helping with a brake job. My brother got an AR for helping somebody do some drywall.
If you wish to cover yourself as a seller, you can do a bill of sale, or you could go as far as going to an FFL and have them run a background check. As a buyer, I think you can ask the local sheriff to run the serial # to make sure it's not reported stolen.
I don't do bill of sales, but one thing I would recommend is if you are selling or buying from a stranger, do it in a public place (with cameras) during daylight. Walmart parking lot for example. I've seen some people say they have met in a police substation parking lot. That's just taking a little precaution, to make sure you're not going to get robbed.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:56 am to Scoob
quote:all great info and recommendations.
I was pointing it out, because I've seen people posting things online (for example, on thehighroad.com) where they have a real misunderstanding of the law.
Some people ask about how to get a gun registered to someone else after they sell it, believing there IS a registry nationwide. There are those who believe that you need to go to an FFL to transfer to another person, no matter the state.
In Louisiana, there is no registry, and no requirement of having an FFL do a background check or sign off. There is no requirement of a reciept or bill of sale. You may do a face-to-face transfer to anyone that you have no reasonable belief can not own a firearm.
You can sell it for any price, including trading or gifting it (or bartering it for a service). My dad got a 12 gauge pump in return for helping someone with his transmission, and a S&W Model 10 for helping with a brake job. My brother got an AR for helping somebody do some drywall.
If you wish to cover yourself as a seller, you can do a bill of sale, or you could go as far as going to an FFL and have them run a background check. As a buyer, I think you can ask the local sheriff to run the serial # to make sure it's not reported stolen.
I don't do bill of sales, but one thing I would recommend is if you are selling or buying from a stranger, do it in a public place (with cameras) during daylight. Walmart parking lot for example. I've seen some people say they have met in a police substation parking lot. That's just taking a little precaution, to make sure you're not going to get robbed.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:17 pm to CarRamrod
quote:
the bill of sale is a protection for you the seller.... incase that dude uses that gun in a crime... then track it to you... you become the #1 suspect without a BOS.
How would they track the gun to you? NICS checks aren’t saved. So there is no way to trace it outside of you buying it then killing someone nearly immediately. Or The gun store might be assholes and record the serial number to a seller but I doubt it.
*yes they probably lie and save them*
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:30 pm to CarRamrod
quote:
the bill of sale is a protection for you the seller.... incase that dude uses that gun in a crime... then track it to you... you become the #1 suspect without a BOS.
lol
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:11 pm to Tigers0891
Form 4473 which is what you fill out must be retained for the life of the FFL business. Paper or electronic. This means as long as the business you bought it from is open, ATF or anyone else can search for who bought firearm xyz with a serial number.
So yes, they do retain a “list” of who bought what gun and are required to by ATF.
So yes, they do retain a “list” of who bought what gun and are required to by ATF.
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